Intel Conroe Clock Speed List...?

Intel 65nm Dual Core Conroe 8x86 CPU (Pentium 5) Clock Speed List:

Intel Conroe
E4200 2MB 1.60GHz 800MHz FSB Q4 $169. us

E6200 2MB 1.60GHz 1066MHz FSB Q4 $179. us
E6300 2MB 1.86GHz 1066MHz FSB Q3 $209. us
E6400 2MB 2.13GHz 1066MHz FSB Q3 $239. us
E6500 2MB 2.40GHz 1066MHz FSB Q4 $269. us

E6600 4MB 2.40GHz 1066MHz FSB Q3 $309. us (65 Watts)
E6700 4MB 2.67GHz 1066MHz FSB Q3 $529. us
E6800 4MB 2.93GHz 1066MHz FSB Q4 $749. us
E6900 4MB 3.20GHz 1066MHz FSB Q4 $969. us

Intel Conroe XE
E8000 4MB 3.33GHz 1333MHz FSB Q4 $1199. us (95 Watts)

Now I like to see inside them too see whats new added? SSE4 maybe? What else is in there do you know? list please...

VT, and Viiv on standard models and XE, and HT on the XE. Don't know yet on the multi options on the XE. Lower TDP's. TDP will be 65watts on the standard models, and TDP will be 95watts on the XE. See the link in the Conroe XE 3.333Ghz Thread. It's in the first post. It is a link to Xbit labs.

BTW, good luck with this thread...you're gonna need it.

I think my new cpu purchase will be one of the E6600 4MB 2.40GHz 1066MHz FSB deals. Seems like itll be cheap enough and probably provide decent overclocks! I hope for at least 3ghz! Not much at all.

are all conroes dual core? If so they wont be cheap at all!

E6300 2MB 1.86GHz 1066MHz FSB Q3

this one is my top choice. Push the fsb from 266 to 400MHz and ill have 2.8GHz of power! This will eat even an fx57 or fx60!

If conroe is multilocked, youll be better off buying the ones with lower multis as higher fsb will get you better performance.

no not all are dual core, some are single core

Conroe = Dual Core

dicecca112 said:

no not all are dual core, some are single core

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Intel Conroe is dual core only! Presler will be replaced by Conroe, a desktop implementation of Intel's upcoming Merom core for notebook computers. It will not carry the Pentium D name.

Conroe, which will be a dual-core CPU, is expected to be released in the 3th quarter of 2006. Dual-core Merom, dual-core Conroe and dual-core Woodcrest (the server version of this CPU), will all feature 'next generation micro-architecture', which will combine many characteristics from both Pentium M architecture (P6 architecture, low-power design, etc). Conroe is expected to have a 65 Watt TDP, and will also have 2 or 4 MB of L2 shared cache. Conroe will not, however, have HyperThreading. This is due to the 14-stage pipeline, which is much shorter than the Prescott (31 stage pipeline) and Northwood (21 stage) and also a bit wider than Banias. This will also prevent the Conroe from being introduced in high frequencies (e.g. 4GHz). It is said that the Conroe will provide from 1.33GHz to 3.33GHz clock speeds.

I thought conroe started at 1.6GHz. Theres no need for HT if all conroes are dual core then HT is a waste of die space. I have little need for dual core so I wont pay more than 20% more than single core. I dont see how Intel can sell dual cores cheap, they wont make any money that way when it costs them twice to make dual core! I am upset there wont be a single core, but if the cheapest conroe starts below $200, ill let it go.

The Intel Conroe speed list I gave is from 2006 only!

Overclocker550 said:

I thought conroe started at 1.6GHz.

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E6100 2MB 1.33GHz 1066MHz FSB Q1 2007 $149. us (35 Watts)

So is the conroe line unified under the same product, or will some of the lower cache, low speed models possibly be a celeron type model? Anyone have an answer?

ToxicTaZ said:

E6100 2MB 1.33GHz 1066MHz FSB Q1 2007

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Is there a point in such a low clock speed? Could it be the "rejects" that just wouldnt clock well? I dont think ill get alot of clocks with one of those, the multiplier is only 5x even if I got the fsb to 500MHz, thats only 2.5GHz and Intel has STOCK conroes up to 3.33GHz! Ill probably need the 1.86 model with 7x multi to get any decent overclock above 3GHz.

The best Conroe is E6600 4MB 2.40GHz 1066MHz FSB for o/c ((1GHz)) ?

I believe the best conroe for overclocking is going to be:

Intel Conroe E6600 4MB 2.40GHz 1066MHz FSB

Conroe MAX clock speeds on air should be around 3.50GHz at the most! even there top dog Intel Conroe XE E8000 4MB 3.33GHz 1333MHz FSB wont have much head room to over clock, 65nm Conroe is going to be much the same as the 130nm Northwood C was three years ago for clock speeds.

Two years ago the best o/c northwood C was:

Intel Pentium 4c 2.40GHz 800MHz FSB

The Conroe E6600 4MB 2.40GHz 1066MHz FSB should be able to get a 1GHz o/c on air out of the box! ((3.46GHz)) this is my guess where the sweet spot is going to be i hope

P.S sorry for the people that like to o/c with celeron type model chips I base the best CPU on the bottom end 4MB cache chip.

Theres no need for HT if all conroes are dual core then HT is a waste of die space. I have little need for dual core so I wont pay more than 20% more than single core. I dont see how Intel can sell dual cores cheap, they wont make any money that way when it costs them twice to make dual core! I am upset there wont be a single core, but if the cheapest conroe starts below $200, ill let it go.

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There won't be a need for HT since it's meant to simulate another core (actually more like finding a way around waiting for the instructions to clear the long pipes before the next set can start), but HT is a performance improvement regardless. It may not be as much so with shorter pipes on Conroe, but they need to toss in something for twice the price

Everything is going the way of the dual core whether you want it to or not. Presler is out and doing great, but there's just not much going on with CedarMills at all. I mean you hardly hear anything and almost have to dig to find them available somewhere. Clock-wise, dual cores are more expensive, but performance-wise, dual cores are cheaper...much cheaper. My 661 (3.6GHz) was $430. My 930 (3.0GHz) was $340, clocks just as high and walks ALL over it in performance. It was a crap shoot to get a 930 that good (first one sucked for OCing, but still beat the 661 with 1GHz less OC). The days of MHz racing are all but over.

Economies of Scale. It does not cost them twice as much to make them all dual core, nor do they charge twice as much for a dual core. 2.67+GHz Conroes won't be particularly cheap, but will be a bargain compared to XEs. Going back to performance/$, the mid/low speed Conroes should REALLY be a deal.

@TOXiC, I think you are hoping for too much. The days of automatic 1GHz OCs are going to be over. This is a brand new arch, Prescott/CedarMill has long history for revisions and tweaking. I think there's no reason Intel couldn't have put out 4.0GHz+ default versions of them except they'd have to print the TDP numbers to go with them

The XEs are going to be hand-picked cores and most certainly not all Conroe cores will be capable of running XE speeds by default. What worries me is that they might be binned really close to default clocks because there is going to be a lot of them, not clocked far apart. If they're designed to all run 2.4GHz regardless, obviously the lower ones would be a deal and OC well, but I think on the initial release, the 2.67GHz is probably going to be the safest bet for good OCs...they will be the most carefully chosen cores, unless of course they will all do 3.0GHz without being binned, but I think that's highly unlikely

Intel Conroe E6600 4MB 2.40GHz 1066MHz FSB

@Toxic, I think you are hoping for too much. The days of automatic 1GHz OCs are going to be over. This is a brand new arch, Prescott/CedarMill has long history for revisions and tweaking. I think there's no reason Intel couldn't have put out 4.0GHz+ default versions of them except they'd have to print the TDP numbers to go with them.

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Hard to say Ross you could be right or then again Intel could fool all of us and make a perfect CPU for once from the start...?

Intel 65nm 14-stage pipeline a lot better then AMD 12-stage pipeline using 90nm SOI right now!!...with AMD stuck at the MAX of 3GHz on 90nm SOI can be safe to say that Intel 65nm MAX around 3.50GHz with a 14-stage pipeline @100 Watts?

With two awesome chipsets coming...

Intel 965X Chipset (1066MHz FSB) July 2006

Nvidia nForce 5 (for Intel) Aug 2006

The funny thing is by the time AMD gets to 65nm SOI ready Intel will have there 45nm ready Q2 2007 with 4 cores and 8MB L2 chips.

ToxicTaZ said:

Hard to say Ross you could be right or then again Intel could fool all of us and make a perfect CPU for once from the start...?

Intel 65nm 14-stage pipeline a lot better then AMD 12-stage pipeline using 90nm SOI right now!!...with AMD stuck at the MAX of 3GHz on 90nm SOI can be safe to say that Intel 65nm MAX around 3.50GHz with a 14-stage pipeline @100 Watts?

With two awesome chipsets coming...

Intel 965X Chipset (1066MHz FSB) July 2006

Nvidia nForce 5 (for Intel) Aug 2006

The funny thing is by the time AMD gets to 65nm SOI ready Intel will have there 45nm ready Q2 2007 with 4 cores and 8MB L2 chips.

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Where did this TDP of 100watts come from... even if we assume that... i do beleive its going to be closer to 65-85 watts. current core duo's are at 31watts. Just a safe bet to assume 2 times of what is currently out. given what is going into conroe.

95W has been tossed around for the XE quite a bit, it's likely even printed in a roadmap somewhere because I've seen it mulitple times too. It seems about right with the FSB/clock and the HT tossed in though. If the standards are going to be 65W you can rest assured the XE will be noticeably higher.

Don't confuse mobile procs (the Yonahs you mentioned) with desktop procs. Conroe will kind of blur that since it will used for both, but there will be ULV (ultra low voltage) versions for mobile applications, probably some of those sub-2.40GHz versions. The entire point of desktops is that they don't have the thermal or power constraints of laptops, so you can probably forget ever seeing a 3.33GHz Conroe made for a laptop

@ Toxic, that's kinda my point. Those AMDs are getting maybe 1GHz OCs on phase or better. 3.5GHz might be a little much to expect out of a 2.4GHz Conroe. It might be doable, but I doubt it will be on stock air cooling I certainly have no idea how they will OC and believe me, I hope they OC like crazy, but I am trying not to get my hopes up because they may not clock well at all. Shorter pipes = more heat per clock and depending how they are binned, that could very well put the brakes on it right there.

o/c Intel Conroe E6600 4MB 2.40GHz 1066MHz FSB @3.50GHz = 100 Watts

Evilsizer said:

Where did this TDP of 100watts come from... even if we assume that... i do beleive its going to be closer to 65-85 watts. current core duo's are at 31watts. Just a safe bet to assume 2 times of what is currently out. given what is going into conroe.

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Sorry I was not very clear but if you over clocked a Intel Conroe E6600 4MB 2.40GHz 1066MHz FSB (65 Watts) to 3.50GHz it = about 100 Watts of power with that chip.

I got a price for them all:

Intel Conroe
E4200 2MB 1.60GHz 800MHz FSB Q4 $169. us

E6100 2MB 1.33GHz 1066MHz FSB Q1 2007 $149. us (35 Watts)*

E6200 2MB 1.60GHz 1066MHz FSB Q4 $179. us
E6300 2MB 1.86GHz 1066MHz FSB Q3 $209. us
E6400 2MB 2.13GHz 1066MHz FSB Q3 $239. us
E6500 2MB 2.40GHz 1066MHz FSB Q4 $269. us

E6600 4MB 2.40GHz 1066MHz FSB Q3 $309. us (65 Watts)
E6700 4MB 2.67GHz 1066MHz FSB Q3 $529. us
E6800 4MB 2.93GHz 1066MHz FSB Q4 $749. us
E6900 4MB 3.20GHz 1066MHz FSB Q4 $969. us

Intel Conroe XE
E8000 4MB 3.33GHz 1333MHz FSB Q4 $1199. us (95 Watts)

I got the price for these chips! Wow there a little high for me, I wanted to get Intel Conroe E6600 4MB chip but i live in Canada and that chip would be $429. Canadian

ToxicTaZ said:

Sorry I was not very clear but if you over clocked a Intel Conroe E6600 4MB 2.40GHz 1066MHz FSB (65 Watts) to 3.50GHz it = about 100 Watts of power with that chip.

I got a price for them all:

Intel Conroe
E4200 2MB 1.60GHz 800MHz FSB Q4 $169. us

E6100 2MB 1.33GHz 1066MHz FSB Q1 2007 $149. us (35 Watts)*

E6200 2MB 1.60GHz 1066MHz FSB Q4 $179. us
E6300 2MB 1.86GHz 1066MHz FSB Q3 $209. us
E6400 2MB 2.13GHz 1066MHz FSB Q3 $239. us
E6500 2MB 2.40GHz 1066MHz FSB Q4 $269. us

E6600 4MB 2.40GHz 1066MHz FSB Q3 $309. us (65 Watts)
E6700 4MB 2.67GHz 1066MHz FSB Q3 $529. us
E6800 4MB 2.93GHz 1066MHz FSB Q4 $749. us
E6900 4MB 3.20GHz 1066MHz FSB Q4 $969. us

Intel Conroe XE
E8000 4MB 3.33GHz 1333MHz FSB Q4 $1199. us (95 Watts)

I got the price for these chips! Wow there a little high for me, I wanted to get Intel Conroe E6600 4MB chip but i live in Canada and that chip would be $429. Canadian

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woa...well if they OC well i should be able to upgrade for under $100 after selling off my 920...

Sorry I was not very clear but if you over clocked a Intel Conroe E6600 4MB 2.40GHz 1066MHz FSB (65 Watts) to 3.50GHz it = about 100 Watts of power with that chip.

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It will probably be higher than that, but it really depends what Vc you use to get that clock. My guess is that it will be in the 130W range minimum, but it's only a guess.

I don't think I've seen any actual figures or speculation as to what the default Vc will be on the desktop versions, but I doubt it will be much less than the 1.25V we are seeing on Yonahs, so I figured 1.25Vc stock and 1.50Vc OC (probably not enough for 1GHz OC ).

OC Watt = TDP*(OC MHz/Stock MHz)*(OC Vcore/Stock Vcore )^2

That totals out to 136.5W. If you have to go up to say 1.60Vc, make that 155W.

Those prices are what I've been seeing too. I'll be all over the 2.67GHz at release.

Nothing is ever set in stone till we get them in our hands and try them out right?

I don't see why all you overclockers are so excited about the Conroe. It is NOT such a great step (unless you are worried about your Electric Bill).

By Sep-Oct you will have a Conroe overclocked to 3.5GHz at most. Which will be like a 5GHz Pentium D. BUT by then you will be able to get the Pentium D EE 965 for $300-500 on E-Bay. That chip will overclock to 5GHz anyway. AND it will have four threads!

Of course even today you can get 4GHz+ on a Pentium D for $260 or so.

The only good thing about the Conroe is the Power Consumption. And that is a big deal for Intel and corporate users, but not us power hungry overclockers.

Personally I am waiting for the Kentsfield chip (quad core). This is basically two Conroe dies stuck together in one chip. And now that will be a leap in computing power. It will be branded as a "gamers" chip and be the top of the line of the Extreme Edition series. It is supposed to out by Q4 this year. See:-

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=29735