Anyone else getting veriozon FIBER

SK8 · 06-08-05, 10:28 PM

Well good ole verizon is layin fiber as i type this. They chose my area because there is money where i live ( i dont have ANY) lol. Well the package they are offering is 15mbit down and 2mbit upload, woot! Anyone else around here having verizon install them thar fiber?

infinitevalence · 06-08-05, 10:31 PM

!!! where the hell do i sign up, im so sick of 5m down (like you ever get that) and 120k up (more like 42k at most) i NEED more bandwidth, im already starved.

TollhouseFrank · 06-08-05, 10:41 PM

already got Fiber here... frontiernet.... but they refuse to give us more than 1.6m down... no competition around to force them to change, either.

9mmCensor · 06-08-05, 10:48 PM

I wanna fiber!!!

khiloa · 06-08-05, 10:54 PM

I'd like fibre but I can't afford it and the area I live in will probably be the very last area to ever get it. So I'm pretty much out of luck. I'll probably end up getting it right when the next big connection generation is coming out. I just upgraded to cable from dialup! Took long enough.

infinitevalence · 06-08-05, 10:56 PM

Ehh thats better than at my fathers house, his only options are dial up and smoke signals. My god parents are even worse off they cant even get a phone, to far out into the woods to run polls and cable.

TollhouseFrank · 06-08-05, 10:57 PM

we've had fiber here since the early-mid 90's. our local telephone company (back then part of bellsouth...) was given a HUGE grant to rewire the entire county in Fiber. They did so.

However, we haven't had anyone willing to bring broadband until frontiernet bought out the internet company i was using. We don't have cable internet here, as we don't have cable.

Satellite DSL or Phone-DSL are the only options I have.

Archer36 · 06-09-05, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SK8

Well good ole verizon is layin fiber as i type this. They chose my area because there is money where i live ( i dont have ANY) lol. Well the package they are offering is 15mbit down and 2mbit upload, woot! Anyone else around here having verizon install them thar fiber?

How much per month?

Mr_Fuchs · 06-10-05, 01:22 AM

before they mess with fios, they should get dsl right, its down all over the fkn area.. i'm posting from dialup... uggghhhh

Fighter2a · 06-10-05, 02:11 AM

I have FIOS. It's amazing.

Vance S · 06-10-05, 02:20 AM

I think I read somewhere that the 15mb down and 2mb up is the same price as most cable at 3mb down and 384k up. If it was, I would be all over it. Provided that they made it available in my area of course.

Fighter2a · 06-10-05, 02:43 AM

I have 15/2 and it's $50 the same as my old crap comcast connection.

Ri0 · 06-10-05, 06:03 AM

My cable is 384/128 or whatever and is $42/mo...

I wonder if i will ever see fiber...

LoneWolf121188 · 12-20-05, 11:25 AM

Sorry to revive an old thread here, but...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fighter2a

I have FIOS. It's amazing.

Can you really tell the difference? What speeds are you actually getting (vs what you're paying for)?

wa77ss · 12-20-05, 11:48 AM

I have 800K both ways. Using old WWII radios. AHAAAHA.

Tall_Dallas · 12-20-05, 12:16 PM

I have Fios from Verizon and absolutley LOVE IT!
I'm getting their TV service through my fiber connection soon (hopefully before new years)
I have the 15/2 connection and coming from paying $85/mo for DSL (top end speed with phone line just to have the DSL) I must say, $45/mo is DIRT CHEAP for this high speed!
I have had 0 service interruptions except for one!
my neighbor cut my fiber line when he was installing his sprinkler system. the moron didn't read the part about the 10 foot eisement for the city utilities in front of his house, so he killed the connection to 5 homes. needless to say, we were NOT happy with him.
Anyway, I called Verison on saturday. They had a team out there monday morning and surveyed the damage... and I was up and running later that day!
Service has been great!
If you get a chance for fiber through Verizon ... DO IT!
almost EVERY other co. is just laying fiber as of the street! then copper up to your house. Verizon is Fiber all the way up to the house, then CAT5 inside.
Voice, Data, TV, etc... all through one service and connection. Can't beat it!
you can have up to 4 voice lines as well. so if you run your voice with CAT5 you can just pick your pair and make each room whichever line you choose!
...
OH!
Check out their prices on the TV service... FULL PACKAGE (what is worth $100/mo through DirecTV or Comcast) only costs $80 through verizon.

I am TOTALLY pleased!

infinitevalence · 12-20-05, 12:55 PM

ahh... I want so bad, atm im going to be coughing up 300 a mth for 1.5/1.5 SDSL....

soundfx4 · 12-20-05, 04:05 PM

oh god, I do NOT want to get started on verizon and their BS fiber plan. I hate Verizon with evey fiber of my being. They should have started the fiber deployment 5 years ago, not one year ago. Grrr...If I start thinking about it, it would be enough for me to go on a mad rampage, breaking, and vandelizing EVERYTHING in sight. I REALLY hate Verizon...

LoneWolf121188 · 12-20-05, 06:08 PM

So if the reason you hate verizion is cause they're "late" in getting their fiber deployed to the house, which ISP do you like? Verizon is the only major ISP atm that offers fiber to the house in the US AFAIK.

four4875 · 12-20-05, 06:38 PM

as soon as i can get FIOS im jumping on it. the fibre offers so much headroom straight to their offices, where they have their own fibre and massive connections to the backbones. i will gladly contribute to verizons corporate machine, i dont care what others say, ive been given crap about it caus i work at an ISP. but flat out, my employer cant give me that kind of bandwidth, especially for that price.

infinitevalence, thats a decent price for a T1 (T1 spec is 1.544 mb sync) we're paying around 800 now for ours in the office, but we do have 512 IPs to our disposal, which seems to be the expensive part these days. we just got the cost down from 1200 to 800 tho, so its gettin better. i cant wait till (if

) verizon gets here to this town, or i move to somewhere that is covered lol. i tihnk i would opt for the 30/5 package, id spend the pennies.

Ddruid_SMP · 12-20-05, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneWolf121188

So if the reason you hate verizion is cause they're "late" in getting their fiber deployed to the house, which ISP do you like? Verizon is the only major ISP atm that offers fiber to the house in the US AFAIK.

No Verizon is not the only provider, there are several ILEC's in Missouri doing the same, just not on such a big scale. In fact, we are prepping to begin replacing customer drops with 5pair coper + 2 fiber. It will be some time before the fiber is lit, but it is a start.

soundfx4 · 12-20-05, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneWolf121188

So if the reason you hate verizion is cause they're "late" in getting their fiber deployed to the house, which ISP do you like? Verizon is the only major ISP atm that offers fiber to the house in the US AFAIK.

Which ISP do I like? Hmmm...let's see, I like yahoo japan BB, and Nippon Telegraph and Telephone Corporation, because they aren't greedy SOB's like Verizon. But unfortunately, neither of them have any say in the US telecom market, we were unlucky enough to have a company such as Verizon control the majority of the telecom business in the US. I'm sure you know about Japan and Korea, just to name a couple of countries.

soundfx4 · 12-20-05, 08:44 PM

You don't get it either. I'm jumping on the fiber bandwagon too, as soon as Verizon gets their greedy asses down here, but that isn't the point at all. The reason I'm jumping on it is because it will be the fastest, most affordable thing I can get when it comes. Even with all my hatred for Verizon, I won't have a choice if I want the fastest internet connection available in the US. That is how it is almost everywhere. People don't like a company, but they are all but forced into buying the companies products, or services. Verizon knows this, and they are taking advantage of it.

And one more thing many people don't think about, the board of directors and the CEO. The people that make the choices for the products, or services that you are going to buy all make in excess of 1 million dollars a year, with the CEO probably raking in 20 million. Now with that much money, if they wanted to they could easily afford an Optical Carrier pipe strait to their rich ba*tard mansions! And because of this, they do NOT care when fiber gets deployed in the US, as long as it gets done. They don't even care if their customers are completely satisfied; they only have to keep customers just satisfied enough to where the customer will still send Verizon their money. That kind of BS just burns me up with indescribable rage, if I ran into the CEO of Verizon tomorrow I would probably end up in jail for assault, and possibly murder.

I'm sorry, but I can't stand greedy corporations, especially Verizon.

koss20100 · 12-20-05, 08:52 PM

Why do you guyz need soo much bandwith again ?

soundfx4 · 12-20-05, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by koss20100

Why do you guyz need soo much bandwith again ?

Remote desktop

personal web server, or FTP server for transferring large files

Watch Videos on your computer at a remote location

play games on your computer from a remote location (sorry this only available in Japan and Korea, you have Verizon, among other companies, to thank for that)

many other things!

soundfx4 · 12-20-05, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tall_Dallas

Can't beat it!

lol, not in the US anyway...

Avg · 12-20-05, 09:08 PM

I've been on fiber for a couple of years, at first it wasn't down wasn't limited but now they made improvements to the network and my bandwidth was increased from about 7mb-9mb to 15mb and limited to have that at the most and 2mb up, for the same $45 a month, and if I pay another ten a months I get 1gb mail accounts, some webspace, and twice the bandwidth.

By the way koss, the question isn't Why? it is Why not?lol

four4875 · 12-20-05, 10:24 PM

ever notice how all the files we sem to be sending are getting larger and larger? downloading videos (legit video, dont worry) that are a good few hundred megs each, and stuff like that. everything we do is getting bigger and faster. while we can do most stuff fine at 5 mbits or so, the size of what were doing is getting bigger. instead of 128kbps mp3s, were using lossless FLAC. instead of the SVCD quality were using DVD quality. hard drives are getting HUGE, giving us the space to keep huge ammounts of data, that we often want to share and acquire over the net.

why isnt 28.8 enough, why did we need to go up to 56k, and faster. we jsut want more in the same ammount of time lol.

personally, im happy on my downstream. its the up that i want, a sync connection would be grand. it sucks tryin to send hundreds of megs of video to someone. especially if you're trying to send it to 10 people. things like torrents help to distribute the load, but if i had say 5 mbits up i wouldnt have to worry about that stuff, just spend a few minues on each and its done, so maybe 30 mins to send it to everyone where... i would spend longer setting up a tracker to use with BT and then have to upload it to the people so they can upload to each other and all... and then getting them to use BT......

jopapa1267 · 12-20-05, 11:14 PM

Does verizon have a roadmap of what areas are gonna get fiber when? I really cant wait till it gets to edison, New Jersey.....

maxxoverclocker · 12-21-05, 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soundfx4

play games on your computer from a remote location

how in the hell... how could a current cpu handle that? uploading a remote desktop of a game? or are u talking about something else?

06-08-05, 10:28 PM	#1
SK8 Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Fort Wayne , In	Anyone else getting veriozon FIBER Well good ole verizon is layin fiber as i type this. They chose my area because there is money where i live ( i dont have ANY) lol. Well the package they are offering is 15mbit down and 2mbit upload, woot! Anyone else around here having verizon install them thar fiber? __________________ Shuttle SN85G4V1 3000+ 1gb KHX 2 x 80gb AV-710 Soundcard ATI x800xt AIW

06-08-05, 10:41 PM	#3
TollhouseFrank Hairy Foot Fetish Senior Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Michel Delving	already got Fiber here... frontiernet.... but they refuse to give us more than 1.6m down... no competition around to force them to change, either. __________________ I don't know half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us Even the smallest person can change the course of the future. It is a strange fate that we should suffer so much fear and doubt over so small a thing. Such a little thing. The closer we are to danger, the further we are from harm.

06-08-05, 10:54 PM	#5
khiloa Open Source Senior Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: /usa/sc/florence	I'd like fibre but I can't afford it and the area I live in will probably be the very last area to ever get it. So I'm pretty much out of luck. I'll probably end up getting it right when the next big connection generation is coming out. I just upgraded to cable from dialup! Took long enough. __________________ Say NO to ads! Did someone just help you? Thank them. Along with F@H, please help support some of our other teams.

06-08-05, 10:57 PM	#7
TollhouseFrank Hairy Foot Fetish Senior Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Michel Delving	we've had fiber here since the early-mid 90's. our local telephone company (back then part of bellsouth...) was given a HUGE grant to rewire the entire county in Fiber. They did so. However, we haven't had anyone willing to bring broadband until frontiernet bought out the internet company i was using. We don't have cable internet here, as we don't have cable. Satellite DSL or Phone-DSL are the only options I have. __________________ I don't know half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us Even the smallest person can change the course of the future. It is a strange fate that we should suffer so much fear and doubt over so small a thing. Such a little thing. The closer we are to danger, the further we are from harm.

06-10-05, 02:11 AM	#10
Fighter2a Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas	I have FIOS. It's amazing. __________________ [My Heatware]

06-08-05, 10:31 PM	#2
infinitevalence Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Nashville	!!! where the hell do i sign up, im so sick of 5m down (like you ever get that) and 120k up (more like 42k at most) i NEED more bandwidth, im already starved.

06-08-05, 10:48 PM	#4
9mmCensor Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Banned Camp	I wanna fiber!!!

06-08-05, 10:56 PM	#6
infinitevalence Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Nashville	Ehh thats better than at my fathers house, his only options are dial up and smoke signals. My god parents are even worse off they cant even get a phone, to far out into the woods to run polls and cable.

06-10-05, 01:22 AM	#9
Mr_Fuchs Banned Join Date: May 2005 Location: Rockaway Beach (Outskirts of NYC)	before they mess with fios, they should get dsl right, its down all over the fkn area.. i'm posting from dialup... uggghhhh

06-10-05, 02:20 AM	#11
Vance S Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: East Bay, CA	I think I read somewhere that the 15mb down and 2mb up is the same price as most cable at 3mb down and 384k up. If it was, I would be all over it. Provided that they made it available in my area of course. __________________ Opteron 148 @ 2.6 DFI nf4-D 2 GB (512x4) Corsair Value Select X800 GTO² 16 pipes @ 540/600 Heat

06-10-05, 02:43 AM	#12
Fighter2a Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas	I have 15/2 and it's $50 the same as my old crap comcast connection. __________________ [My Heatware]

06-10-05, 06:03 AM	#13
Ri0 Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Madison, WI	My cable is 384/128 or whatever and is $42/mo... I wonder if i will ever see fiber... __________________ DFI LP UT NF4 Ultra-D Opteron 165 CCBBE 0615DPMW 320x9 1.34v G.Skill PC4000 3-4-4-8 2.73v Connect3D X850 XT PE (614/614) OCZ 520W \| Dell 2005FPW H2O: MCW6002 \| SilverpropHL \| MCP600 \| BIX _____________________ .::[ MY HEATWARE ]::.

12-20-05, 11:48 AM	#15
wa77ss Benching Team Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Virginia	I have 800K both ways. Using old WWII radios. AHAAAHA. __________________ Toshiba Satellite A105 [Intel T2050 1.66GHz] - [2x512MB DDR2-667MHz] - [100GB HDD] Windows XP SP3 MCE Heatware

12-20-05, 12:16 PM	#16
Tall_Dallas Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Dallas, Tx.	I have Fios from Verizon and absolutley LOVE IT! I'm getting their TV service through my fiber connection soon (hopefully before new years) I have the 15/2 connection and coming from paying $85/mo for DSL (top end speed with phone line just to have the DSL) I must say, $45/mo is DIRT CHEAP for this high speed! I have had 0 service interruptions except for one! my neighbor cut my fiber line when he was installing his sprinkler system. the moron didn't read the part about the 10 foot eisement for the city utilities in front of his house, so he killed the connection to 5 homes. needless to say, we were NOT happy with him. Anyway, I called Verison on saturday. They had a team out there monday morning and surveyed the damage... and I was up and running later that day! Service has been great! If you get a chance for fiber through Verizon ... DO IT! almost EVERY other co. is just laying fiber as of the street! then copper up to your house. Verizon is Fiber all the way up to the house, then CAT5 inside. Voice, Data, TV, etc... all through one service and connection. Can't beat it! you can have up to 4 voice lines as well. so if you run your voice with CAT5 you can just pick your pair and make each room whichever line you choose! ... OH! Check out their prices on the TV service... FULL PACKAGE (what is worth $100/mo through DirecTV or Comcast) only costs $80 through verizon. I am TOTALLY pleased! __________________ Asus 7600GS 256MB Intel DP35DP Motherboard Intel Core2 Duo E6600 (Dual 2.4Ghz, 4Mb L2 cache, 1066Mhz FSB) Kingston DDR2 800Mhz Ram (2 x 1GB)

12-20-05, 12:55 PM	#17
infinitevalence Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Nashville	ahh... I want so bad, atm im going to be coughing up 300 a mth for 1.5/1.5 SDSL....

12-20-05, 04:05 PM	#18
soundfx4 Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Roanoke, VA	oh god, I do NOT want to get started on verizon and their BS fiber plan. I hate Verizon with evey fiber of my being. They should have started the fiber deployment 5 years ago, not one year ago. Grrr...If I start thinking about it, it would be enough for me to go on a mad rampage, breaking, and vandelizing EVERYTHING in sight. I REALLY hate Verizon... __________________ Facts about me: 1: I'm a cheater and pround of it! (video games) R.I.P. - Console Game Cheating, Pelican Code breaker, Game shark, you will be missed, and console gaming will never be the same with out you. 2: Currently learning to speak japanese (was...I haven't got back into this yet) 3: I finally manged to escape wows evil grasp, and I encourage all others to do the same! 4: I'm Depressed most of the time, and I still don't know what I want to do with my life 5: I like cars and hope to learn to work on them one day

12-20-05, 06:08 PM	#19
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12-20-05, 06:38 PM	#20
four4875 Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: I can see walmart, 44906	as soon as i can get FIOS im jumping on it. the fibre offers so much headroom straight to their offices, where they have their own fibre and massive connections to the backbones. i will gladly contribute to verizons corporate machine, i dont care what others say, ive been given crap about it caus i work at an ISP. but flat out, my employer cant give me that kind of bandwidth, especially for that price. infinitevalence, thats a decent price for a T1 (T1 spec is 1.544 mb sync) we're paying around 800 now for ours in the office, but we do have 512 IPs to our disposal, which seems to be the expensive part these days. we just got the cost down from 1200 to 800 tho, so its gettin better. i cant wait till (if ) verizon gets here to this town, or i move to somewhere that is covered lol. i tihnk i would opt for the 30/5 package, id spend the pennies. __________________ pc: dell P4 1.8 with 512 megs of PC133, not even an AGP slot in it. 32 meg TNT2 pwnin it up. ride: 82 k10, 31's on 3 inch susp. lift, SBC 400, TH350, NP208, 3.09 gears. quadrajet to an edelbrock intake, 0.030" milled off the heads, headers to glasspackeds, its loud and gets <10 MPG. take that, Gore.

12-20-05, 08:44 PM	#23
soundfx4 Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Roanoke, VA	You don't get it either. I'm jumping on the fiber bandwagon too, as soon as Verizon gets their greedy asses down here, but that isn't the point at all. The reason I'm jumping on it is because it will be the fastest, most affordable thing I can get when it comes. Even with all my hatred for Verizon, I won't have a choice if I want the fastest internet connection available in the US. That is how it is almost everywhere. People don't like a company, but they are all but forced into buying the companies products, or services. Verizon knows this, and they are taking advantage of it. And one more thing many people don't think about, the board of directors and the CEO. The people that make the choices for the products, or services that you are going to buy all make in excess of 1 million dollars a year, with the CEO probably raking in 20 million. Now with that much money, if they wanted to they could easily afford an Optical Carrier pipe strait to their rich ba*tard mansions! And because of this, they do NOT care when fiber gets deployed in the US, as long as it gets done. They don't even care if their customers are completely satisfied; they only have to keep customers just satisfied enough to where the customer will still send Verizon their money. That kind of BS just burns me up with indescribable rage, if I ran into the CEO of Verizon tomorrow I would probably end up in jail for assault, and possibly murder. I'm sorry, but I can't stand greedy corporations, especially Verizon. __________________ Facts about me: 1: I'm a cheater and pround of it! (video games) R.I.P. - Console Game Cheating, Pelican Code breaker, Game shark, you will be missed, and console gaming will never be the same with out you. 2: Currently learning to speak japanese (was...I haven't got back into this yet) 3: I finally manged to escape wows evil grasp, and I encourage all others to do the same! 4: I'm Depressed most of the time, and I still don't know what I want to do with my life 5: I like cars and hope to learn to work on them one day

12-20-05, 08:52 PM	#24
koss20100 Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Houston, TX	Why do you guyz need soo much bandwith again ? __________________ ~~my rig~~ ->400W Forton ->DFI Ultra-D NF4 ->Opteron 144 @ 2.70GHZ ->Patriot EP 512MBx2 2-3-2-5-T1 (207mhz) ->eVGA 6600GT ->Creative Blaster Live! 24 ->5 case fans & XP-90 w/ 80cfm Sanyo

12-20-05, 09:08 PM	#27
Avg Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: NY, Long island	I've been on fiber for a couple of years, at first it wasn't down wasn't limited but now they made improvements to the network and my bandwidth was increased from about 7mb-9mb to 15mb and limited to have that at the most and 2mb up, for the same $45 a month, and if I pay another ten a months I get 1gb mail accounts, some webspace, and twice the bandwidth. By the way koss, the question isn't Why? it is Why not?lol __________________ Heatware

12-20-05, 10:24 PM	#28
four4875 Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: I can see walmart, 44906	ever notice how all the files we sem to be sending are getting larger and larger? downloading videos (legit video, dont worry) that are a good few hundred megs each, and stuff like that. everything we do is getting bigger and faster. while we can do most stuff fine at 5 mbits or so, the size of what were doing is getting bigger. instead of 128kbps mp3s, were using lossless FLAC. instead of the SVCD quality were using DVD quality. hard drives are getting HUGE, giving us the space to keep huge ammounts of data, that we often want to share and acquire over the net. why isnt 28.8 enough, why did we need to go up to 56k, and faster. we jsut want more in the same ammount of time lol. personally, im happy on my downstream. its the up that i want, a sync connection would be grand. it sucks tryin to send hundreds of megs of video to someone. especially if you're trying to send it to 10 people. things like torrents help to distribute the load, but if i had say 5 mbits up i wouldnt have to worry about that stuff, just spend a few minues on each and its done, so maybe 30 mins to send it to everyone where... i would spend longer setting up a tracker to use with BT and then have to upload it to the people so they can upload to each other and all... and then getting them to use BT...... __________________ pc: dell P4 1.8 with 512 megs of PC133, not even an AGP slot in it. 32 meg TNT2 pwnin it up. ride: 82 k10, 31's on 3 inch susp. lift, SBC 400, TH350, NP208, 3.09 gears. quadrajet to an edelbrock intake, 0.030" milled off the heads, headers to glasspackeds, its loud and gets <10 MPG. take that, Gore.

12-20-05, 11:14 PM	#29
jopapa1267 Member Join Date: Sep 2004	Does verizon have a roadmap of what areas are gonna get fiber when? I really cant wait till it gets to edison, New Jersey.....