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- Sep 27, 2003
Introduction:
Alright, I have a set of TwinMOS TMII 2x512 (UTT 50D). I had a problem running one of them VERY often, and it would RARELY boot (but when it did it would keep working as long as I never cut the power to the mobo completely either by the power plug or by the PSU switch). I also have a set of OCZ VX PC4000 2x512 that I had a similar issue with where one of them wouldn't post AT ALL.
So here I am with two 2x512 UTT sets where only one from each set posts. You would say why not use one from each, but why should I? I was so angry that I was going to RMA both, but before doing so I PMed SteveOCZ about my OCZ VX. Well, it looks like there is a fix to this.
Well, it turns out that that the DFI NF4 has a cold boot issue. What happens is that when you pull the power plug out of the PSU (or turn off its switch), and wait a few seconds until the lights go out on your motherboard you have just caused yourself a problem. Now, when you plug the power back up to the PSU (or turn the switch ON) the lights on the mobo come on again. Now your ram is going to get 2.7v and boot up with that; thus, not giving your UTT ram to boot up at 2-2-2 at whatever FSB you have it at. The thing is that some of this UTT stuff won't boot at low voltage at tight timings, and since this board tries to boot 2.7vdimm at POST on a cold boot you think that the ram is dead.
The Procedure:
The fix is this you basically put in a single UTT stick that WILL boot at cold-boot... then go into bios, set it to 3.0v or so, and then relax your timings to about 2-3-2-8. Save and exit BUT DO NOT POWER DOWN YOUR PSU!!! Let the computer reboot so that you know it's working, and then hold down the power button until the computer turns off. Turning it off with the power button on your case (or the one on the mobo) will still keep the lights on the mobo lit; therefore, there is no cold boot now! Throw in the other UTT stick in as well, and boot up the computer with 2x512. It should DEFINITELY work if that UTT is not dead.
From now on you will have to repeat this procedure every single time that you do a cold boot b/c that motherboard is going to try to boot again at 2.7volts. If you don't believe me, then whip out your DMM and check it out. I don't have a picture of where the vdimm checkpoint is, but you can try the pin 7 trick on your dimm slot to check.
Infinitevalence's Procedure (you may find his more helpful if mine doesn't work)
Warning:
Considering that you're going to have to add ram while the mobo has power be VERY careful. DON'T WEAR ANY JEWELRY ON YOUR ARMS AND MAKE SURE YOU'RE GROUNDED. The motherboard still has power while you're doing this even though the computer is off.
Special Thanks:
I'm sure plenty of people will be thanking me for this, but many thanks goes to the OCZ guys.
Thank you SteveOCZ for the heads up in that PM you replied to me with, and here is a link that he showed me about this:
http://www.bleedinedge.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10643
Let's thank RyderOCZ for the tutorial that he posted, and OzSnoal for finding this issue.
P.S. I had a talk with PMS Fishy about this and his board cold boots at 2.8v. He also mentioned some other funny stuff, so maybe you could ask him about this as well. This is why everyone should have a DMM.
Alright, I have a set of TwinMOS TMII 2x512 (UTT 50D). I had a problem running one of them VERY often, and it would RARELY boot (but when it did it would keep working as long as I never cut the power to the mobo completely either by the power plug or by the PSU switch). I also have a set of OCZ VX PC4000 2x512 that I had a similar issue with where one of them wouldn't post AT ALL.
So here I am with two 2x512 UTT sets where only one from each set posts. You would say why not use one from each, but why should I? I was so angry that I was going to RMA both, but before doing so I PMed SteveOCZ about my OCZ VX. Well, it looks like there is a fix to this.
Well, it turns out that that the DFI NF4 has a cold boot issue. What happens is that when you pull the power plug out of the PSU (or turn off its switch), and wait a few seconds until the lights go out on your motherboard you have just caused yourself a problem. Now, when you plug the power back up to the PSU (or turn the switch ON) the lights on the mobo come on again. Now your ram is going to get 2.7v and boot up with that; thus, not giving your UTT ram to boot up at 2-2-2 at whatever FSB you have it at. The thing is that some of this UTT stuff won't boot at low voltage at tight timings, and since this board tries to boot 2.7vdimm at POST on a cold boot you think that the ram is dead.
The Procedure:
The fix is this you basically put in a single UTT stick that WILL boot at cold-boot... then go into bios, set it to 3.0v or so, and then relax your timings to about 2-3-2-8. Save and exit BUT DO NOT POWER DOWN YOUR PSU!!! Let the computer reboot so that you know it's working, and then hold down the power button until the computer turns off. Turning it off with the power button on your case (or the one on the mobo) will still keep the lights on the mobo lit; therefore, there is no cold boot now! Throw in the other UTT stick in as well, and boot up the computer with 2x512. It should DEFINITELY work if that UTT is not dead.
From now on you will have to repeat this procedure every single time that you do a cold boot b/c that motherboard is going to try to boot again at 2.7volts. If you don't believe me, then whip out your DMM and check it out. I don't have a picture of where the vdimm checkpoint is, but you can try the pin 7 trick on your dimm slot to check.
Infinitevalence's Procedure (you may find his more helpful if mine doesn't work)
Warning:
Considering that you're going to have to add ram while the mobo has power be VERY careful. DON'T WEAR ANY JEWELRY ON YOUR ARMS AND MAKE SURE YOU'RE GROUNDED. The motherboard still has power while you're doing this even though the computer is off.
Special Thanks:
I'm sure plenty of people will be thanking me for this, but many thanks goes to the OCZ guys.
Thank you SteveOCZ for the heads up in that PM you replied to me with, and here is a link that he showed me about this:
http://www.bleedinedge.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10643
Let's thank RyderOCZ for the tutorial that he posted, and OzSnoal for finding this issue.
P.S. I had a talk with PMS Fishy about this and his board cold boots at 2.8v. He also mentioned some other funny stuff, so maybe you could ask him about this as well. This is why everyone should have a DMM.
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