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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Super [dichloro(bis(mesityl) imidazolidine)ruthenium methylidene catalysed] Moderator Join Date: Feb 2001
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The important specs: Resolution: This is measured in Megapixels and simply means how many dots make up the picture. More megapixels mean bigger and better quality pictures, but pictures take up more space. You ideally want a 1Megapixel+ camera. 1Megapixel gives pictures at 1280x960 in size, 2 Megapixels is 1600x1200. There is a difference between actual megapixel resolution and interpolated resolution. Interpolation is simply where an image is taken and made more detailed by guessing what color some of the pixels should be. This is often used in scanners as well. Zoom: This is not vital for point and shoot photography, but nice to have. Digital Zoom is siply enlarging the picture as you could do on a PC, and isn't fantastic. Optical Zoom is the best zoom, but costs more. This is like on normal cameras where the lens moves out to enlarge far away objects. Memory Cards: Watch out for cameras that provide just 4 or 8MB internal memory. These are the cheaper ones. You should get a camera which can use external memory cards. SmartMedia and Compact Flash cards are common, not too expensive and come in 2MB, 4MB, 8MB, 16MB, 32MB, 64MB, 128MB and 256MB sizes. Sony Memory Sticks are used on some cameras. IBM Microdrives are also used for some cameras and can store up to 1GB (ie, a lot ) of images.Connection to PC: The three most common connection methods are Serial, USB and Firewire. USB is the best of these, as serial is slow (very slow) and you will need a firewire card for a firewire connection, as very few computers come with this built in. USB is the way to go. USB1 cameras can transfer data at 12MBps, and USB2 cameras at 480MBps. USB2 devices are backwards compatible, so it doesn't matter that much. LCD screen: Very useful. This is a little screen that allows you to view and delete images that you have taken. Look for 1.5 inches or bigger. Backlighting is also an advantage as it allows the screen to be viewed even in low light environments. Optical Viewfinders: Most cameras include an option to use the LCD screen as viewfinder, but if you prefer to use an optical viewfinder (as on normal film cameras) then make sure the camera has one. Flash: An absolute must. Be careful as some cameras have the flash sticking out. If this seems flimsy and you are a bit clumsy, avoid such cameras. Hope this helps you find the right camera for you. David Quote:
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Top Manufacturers: Canon, Fujifilm, Kodak, Minolta, Nikon, Olympus, Toshiba, and Sony CNET's Digitial Photo Site
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Very strange you posted a thread like this almost the same day I decided to buy a new cam! Good post - good it is stickied - it really deserves it! OK - here are my questions: I have a 1 Megapixel cam @ the moment - really nothing special (HP C200). I am planning to buy a new one in about three - four month (maybe xmas) - what prices do you expect then and what cam to get? I don´t need really professional stuff but s.th. better than mine. The cam is supposed to shot pics indoors and outdoors - I need an alround talent. Three Megapixel ??? Four Megapixel ??? Maybe two are enough?? Well if you want to know what kind of pictures I take usually you can take a look on my website and klick on "Bilder" and then on any pic in the middle - e.g. "Fuerteventura 2001". Thanks for your suggestions! And plz remember to give a price forecast .
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What size pictures are you planning on doing? e.g. 8x10, 4x6, 5x7
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Well usually I do not print my pics - I keep them on my hdd - and put them on my website - so size doesn´t matter that much. I thought the more pixel, the better the quality?! If you take a look at this pic: http://home.arcor.de/reneendres/imag.../_DSC00034.jpg Size is ok (could maybe a little bigger....), but the quality is crap! And indoors the quality is even worse!
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2.8 or 3 Megapixel. Check my CNET link.
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very nice view
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! Maybe next year - this year I had to decide beetween puter or vacation (result is in my sig ) - since I am a student my yearly budget is very limited!Thanks for your advice Penguin! - Any ideas if prices will drop?
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Yes, they should drop. Check with pricewatch, pricegrabber, and nextag, as zdnet isn't that reliable.
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I got a Kodak DC4800 Digital Camera...it is 3.1megapixels and I would HIGHLY recommend it....very nice quality, the only bad thing I can think of is that it only has 3x optical zoom and 6x digital zoom ![]() Oh well...I tihnk it was worth the I think I paid 250 for it...it was floor model though sooooo it was probably 400 maybe Spec
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sounds you´ve made a really great deal!! Well 3x optical zoom would be enough for my purposes! And 250 would fit well in my budget! ![]()
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Thanks .... but I just read the cnet review and the "The bad" is exactly what I wanted to prevent (-> "Poor low-light performance") - and it´s 300 bucks over here - and as I saw on cnet - in the States you can get it for ~230 !! Damn - writing about this stuff I just feel like ordering a cam right in this moment! ![]() EDIT: Maybe I have the possibility to order a cam to my American friends that will visit me this October... so I´d appreciate further recommendations! Must have: 3xoptical zoom; good quality, USB connection. Would be good: Compact Flash I (cuz then I could use my old 64MB card ). Budget ~ 300 - 320
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hehe.
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Thanks Max - sound pretty nice - well no self-timer and no TV-Out - I can live with that @ that price range!! Problem: Is "Flash Smart Media" = "Compact Flash I" ??? Would be interesting! And are the 2 Megapixel really that big difference to my old one?
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Go with the Fujifilm 2600z I did it's great-200 bucks (american) It does have self timer on it. use's smart media came with 16 and 32 megabyte cards came with charger and 2 AA batterys software-finepixviewer usb 3xoptical 2.5 digital zooms ![]() |
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check out the Olympus line up they have a new 720 zoom out 10x , but it gets a bit of shake at that zoom unless you use tripod but it is very good Olympus from wehat I have read is recognized as one of the best lens I recently bought a c-3020 zoom 3.2 megapixel does tiff, jpeg, and 3x optical with 7.5x digital more than enough for me love it so far and I came from using a fuji mx 2700 cisco kid |
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I am happy with my Kodak DX4900. It is your basic point and shoot camera. It is 4megapixels, 2x optical zoom and some crappy digital zoom 3 or 4 I dont care to check (it sux), it came with a 16mb compact flash card. It is a decent size and semi light. I bought it on sale at Dell.com. It retails for $399. not too bad for a 4mp as most start at $500 and up. The photos are clear and exposure is good. upclose it is finicky but with picture at full size you can cut out a little peice and get a good clear close up. Remember its an entry level camera. I would not buy it again. But I would not hesitate to advise someone to buy it for use as a basic photo cam.... |
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I have to put my .2C in ![]() 2MP is good for "photo quality" 5X7 3MP is good for " " " " 8X10 4MP is good for " " " " 8X10 not much better than 3MP just bigger file size on your computer. 5MP is good for " " '" 11X16 but with my Dimage 7I I've had pix blown up to 16X20 and they look great. "when you compare them to 35mm, They can't compare to medim or large format cameras" 6MP is the best right now but your also looking at between US$ 2500-6200!!! any pix that may want to print (STAY OUT OF DIGITAL ZOOM) all digital zoom does is the camera crops the pix for you and interploads to fill the rest of the space. Becareful when buy fugifilm, I know they used to sell their cameras at the interploated file size. which sucks cuz the actual file size is a little better than half of it. When printing interploated pix you'll see that the sharpness is gone, the colors run together and the overall pic is flat. I've found "after experimenting with all the different companies" the best (Sub Pro) has to be olympus. My oly 3000 is still an awesome camera, the only reason I went to minolta for my upgrade is because of the manual features, zoom, and price it offered compared to the oly E20 I hope I didn't offend any fugifilm users ![]()
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Thanks again for all your input - just today I got prices and need your opinion on what would be the best deal. So please take a look to the "Cyber Deal" section where I´ll post it. Thanks!http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/showth...hreadid=113304
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I'm one of those guys that can't just give a straight answer. what exactly do you want the camer for, do you want just a point and shoot or do you want to get in depth with manual features? I would go for at least 3MP right now with the way prices have dropped. There is a huge difference in quality between 2 & 3MP. Not so much with 3 & 4 because during that time they didn't make any real strides in CCD. Now they are looking into a new CCD that is even closer to film.
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Thanks that you point to this again! Well as you wrote before Quote:
If you are feel like checking my latest shot pics from a LAN-Party (made with HP Photosmart C200) - click here. And this "quality" is too bad for me - blured, pixeled, overall! And the question is: Will I get much better results with any cam of the ones mentioned in my Cyber Deal Thread? EDIT: And the prices for 3mp are still about 70% higher than for a 2mp!
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You might want to look at this site also if you are looking for Digital Camera Info. Lots of information and a comparison tool to help you decide which model is for you and within your budget. I used it and I am very happy with the HP C912 i bought. Heres the link. Browse around you will learn alot about digital cameras. BTW great thread and it will I'm sure help a lot of folks make the decision thats right for them. |
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Did anybody read a review of the new 3MP HP PhotoSmart 720 ?? If yes - please let me know the link!
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Heysexy That must be a new camera I did a search on google and came up with nothing along the lines of a review closest thing I got was from hpshopping.com basically a spec. report. that camera hp720photosmart looks pricey for the features i still love my 2600z fujifilm If you check out E-bay you may get a better deal.
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Thanks AlanSr - I´ve noticed their site earlier - but unluckily they only have the specs of the HP 720 til now - no review!
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I have an olympus d-100 1.3 megapixel. Oly 120 bucks, works great thats what all my pics i post are from, the flash is about as good as my friends coolpix 990, and no redeye, wooo. But somepeople says the flash blinds them. I say it is perfect for web images, even more when I am on a 56k modem. Hehe. The lcd is backlight, it doesn't have an optical zoom, . Hope this helps someone. ....................... i have a 16mb smart media and an 8mb. It came with both....It said it was just to have an 8mb.. mmm
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Personally, I have a Canon Powershot G2, and it is one of the best (if not the best) pro-sumer camera on the market. Not what you are looking for (price, not point and shoot.) Canon's Powershot S line are also great cameras. The S30/40/45 series take great photos. The S45 is the newest of the 3, has 4MP, and a 3X optical zoom Fast, great shots. If you are looking for a camera that takes great low-light shots, the Sony DSC-F707 has night vision technology. Expensive though, and again, not point-and-shoot. Kodak has the DX4330 that is 3.1MP, recharges in the base, 16MB internal memory (expandable), and will take video that is only limited by the size of memory card that you have. 3x optical zoom. Around $350. Hope this helps. BL
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