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CrystalMethod

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Well, figured I'd do something for you water cooling nuts. I went and serched for all the coolant additives like Water Wetter, Purple Ice, etc... So if one of them isn't readily avalible in your area, you may want to try one of the others.

The list...

Neo Synthetics (keep cool) :
http://www.neosyntheticoil.com/keepcool.htm
RedLine (water wetter):
http://www.redlineoil.com/products_coolant.asp
Royal Purple (Purple Ice):
http://www.synerlec.com/prodsa/prpice.html
Permatex (Nitrous Oxide Systems® (NOS) Super Coolant Additive):
http://www.permatex.com/news/01/pr042501.asp
Penray (Cool tech 2):
http://www.penray.com/pro/winter1.htm
Problend (40 Below):
http://www.pro-blend.com/tech4032.html
Synergyn (Chill out):
http://www.synergynracing.com/products/Chill Out.htm
Wynn's (radiator treatment):
http://www.wynnsusa.com/products.htm
Arteco (Zitrec AC):
http://www.arteco-coolants.com/pils/pil zitrec AC.htm
Motormax (Motormax):
http://www.motormax.nl/automobiles.htm
CycleLogic (Engine Ice):
http://www.cyclelogic.cc/products.html
RMI (RMI-25):
http://www.technilube.com/products/rmi25.htm

That's all I could find. If I come across anymore, I'll add them to the list.
 
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Liquid soap will foam slighly when it passes through the pump, and the alchohol in windshield washer fluid will expand with the rising temps causing the system to become presurised, and possibly have it leak. The alchohol also isn't good for the rubber of the seals in the pump, and the hoses.
 
Hi Crystal,

Silkolene is known primarily for their oils, but they also manufacture a radiator coolant and an additive. I find the additive to be superior in quality.

Thanks!
 
I know, I was trying to find a link to the actual product, but thye only list their oils on the site. Most of those links I pulled out of my favorites list. they're something I keep track of for racing.
 
BillA said:
anyone know which are odorless ?

a bit tired of WW
(nice list BTW)

be cool

NOS rad. treatment is the closest one to being odorless. Its also a muddy looking brown fluid that most people won't want to use just because of the color. It works well though and I saw no corrosion when using an aluminum microchannel block with a copper rad for many months. Its also the only ww type product with a leak sealer.

Not one of these products will make a damn bit of diff. as far as temps go in a pc water cooler though, unless you use too much and then you get worse temps. Most temp reductions claimed for these products are over the boiling point of water. The conditions in an automotive cooling system are very different from a pc water cooler.

Heres a couple more for your list.
OPTISHIELD® corrosion inhibitor
http://www.optitemp.com/optishield.asp

HY-PER LUBE SUPER COOLANT
http://64.162.250.126/prod_cool.asp
 
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So many choices, which requires the least amount of maintenance and doesn't corrode?

NOS rad. treatment is the closest one to being odorless. Its also a muddy looking brown fluid that most people won't want to use just because of the color. It works well though and I saw no corrosion when using an aluminum microchannel block with a copper rad for many months. Its also the only ww type product with a leak sealer.

What's NOS radiator treatment? I'm a newbie to water cooling and I'm just building my first system ever, so I'm wondering what people's suggestions are for a system that:

- requires very little maintenance (i.e. replace water every 3 months or longer)
- doesn't have any smell at all (or the least)
- provides the optimum cooling without damaging my water blocks. I have two water blocks, and they are a mixture of aluminum and copper.

I know that a liquid that does all of this probably doesn't exist and so I would like to find the perfect balance between all of these features. As I've read so far, dishwashing liquid and alcohol are apparently not very good in the long run. Would 95% distilled water and 5% water wetter be the best? Would 84% distilled water, 15% antifreeze, and 1% waterwetter (as recommended by danger den) be best? All water turns acidic over due to the nature of the closed system, so which would last the longest without turning acidic?
 
So I've been working on a large 40+gallon reservoir system. Since there will be an evaporation unit in the mix, most of the water conditioners don't apply. So before I do an expensive trial and error search and experiment, is there an additive, possibly something for a pool, that doesn't affect heat transfer too much, doesn't corrode stuff, and controls the growth of the nasties? I know its a tall order, but this is the place to ask such a question.
 
schmide said:
So I've been working on a large 40+gallon reservoir system. Since there will be an evaporation unit in the mix, most of the water conditioners don't apply. So before I do an expensive trial and error search and experiment, is there an additive, possibly something for a pool, that doesn't affect heat transfer too much, doesn't corrode stuff, and controls the growth of the nasties? I know its a tall order, but this is the place to ask such a question.


What you will need for an evaporatve cooler is a biocide. You can buy biocide tablets at places like lowes or home depot.
 
Reply to Silkolene questions

Hello guys,

Some of you have asked about finding the Silkolene Pro CCA product I mentioned previously. I do not have a direct link to the product, but if you go to www.silkolenestore.com and click on "maintain" on the menu to the left of the home page you will be directed to pages of different products. Just click next until you find Pro CCA additives (about 4 or 5 clicks to get there).

I like the product because it enables the user to maintain a higher water to additive ratio than required with Water Wetter or Purple Ice. A 1% solution is what is recommended. Another great feature is that it is odorless. For the aesthetically minded...it colors the water blue!

The downside is that it is rather expensive...

Hope this helps!
 
Anyone know for a fact, beyond all doubt if any of these options are completely non-cat toxic and have a smell / taste that'll repel cats from trying to taste?
 
That Pro CCA stuff sounds way too good to be true... by the way I made the links to the Pro CCA products clickable:

Pro CCA Coolant Additive (100 Ml. Dosing Kit)
Pro CCA Coolant Additive (.5 Liter Refill)

The 100mL version, if applied 1 part per 100 (1%) like it suggests, is enough for 2.64 gallons of water.

Are you sure it does all of that? Does it really kill bacteria and stop corrosion with just 1%? Does it become acidic? Does it need to be replaced often? Does it eat at your tubes and fittings?
 
Hello,

Pro CCa is a surffactant as is Water Wetter and Purple Ice et al. No surffactant is a biocide. I know that this is a common misconception, but it is fact nontheless.

These products will inhibit corrosion to a limited extent. They are not necessarily formulated as corrosion inhibitors...that property is a by product. Glycol is a more potent corrosion inhibitor, but not an ideal additive for our needs.

By maintaining a system where all metals are similar and by using a surffactant and a mild biocide we should be able to maintain a good cooling environment for our systems.

Cheers!
 
So if it isn't a biocide, what could we use... hmm...

Dishwashing liquid is supposed to foam and also expand, putting pressure on the pipes, and possibly causing a leak. Alcohol is supposed to eat at your tubes and fittings. What can we use to prevent green algae from forming?

I might try those biocide tablets.

Pro CCA actually doesn't seem that great. It may only require 1%, but water wetter requires only 2.3%-3.125% to prevent corrosion of metals and erosion of the water pump. Water wetter also requires even less when the system is smaller (i.e. a computer water cooling system).
 
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I'm still wondering if there's a completely Cat safe choice beyond pure distilled water. Anyone?
 
what about Zerex Super Protector? i am using an older version of it in my system and it is neon green, but the new stuff is clear (so i hear) and can be found at autozone.


edit: i drained my coolant with the older super protectant and it stained my tubes :( luckily i had enough tubing left over to just redo my system. now im using the newer super protectant and it is awesome!!! its crystal clear and looks great.

zerex super protector would be an excellent choice for people looking for a clear additive for preventing corrosion!!!
 
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