Still trying to figure out what to get for first build

crazyman2501 · 10-15-09, 07:26 PM

I have been going back and forth between either x58 or p55 and priced out two separate rigs for each.

X58
COOLER MASTER HAF 932 $139.99
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX $99.99
Intel Core i7-920 $279.99
EVGA E758-A1 3-Way SLI $279.99
mushkin 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 6-7-6-18 $184.99
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB $94.99
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB $94.99
SAPPHIRE 100282SR Radeon HD 5850 1GB $259.99

$1,434.92

P55

COOLER MASTER HAF 932 $139.99
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX $99.99
Intel Core i7-860 $289.99
EVGA P55 FTW $219.99
mushkin 4GB (2 x 2GB) 1600 7-7-6-18 $127.99
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB $94.99
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB $94.99
SAPPHIRE 100282SR Radeon HD 5850 1GB $259.99

$1,327.92

is there going to be a huge over clock potential versus either one? and any thoughts on either setup? also didn't think the cost was going to go up as fast as it did...

Flurp · 10-15-09, 07:51 PM

go amd if you want to lower the cost

crazyman2501 · 10-16-09, 03:35 AM

Is there no way to lower the cost if I want to go Intel? and 1500 is really my max budget but if I could get more around the 1000 dollar line that would be better

Flurp · 10-16-09, 03:44 AM

There is, though I wouldn't be the best to give you advice, so I'm going to try not to

try looking up reviews of the parts you picked. double check that each part is compatible (ie: ram compatible with mobo) etc... but I'm sure by tomorrow some of those Intel lovers will post in here

if not I'll try to find some information for ya

though I think most of them will tell ya go for the 920... also do you plan on overclocking, and what type of heatsinks and cooling will you be utilizing?

jgv115 · 10-16-09, 04:12 AM

Will you be running crossfire or SLI.

Flurp · 10-16-09, 04:19 AM

He only said one gfx card so I do not believe so...

Theocnoob · 10-16-09, 05:18 AM

Build the X58. Use a DX58SO. It's cheap(er)
You don't need SLI.

crazyman2501 · 10-16-09, 06:18 AM

I am hoping to do a stable overclock at around 4 ghz. I was told that the Prolimatech Megahalems is really hard to beat in terms of air cooling and as of now for cost reasons am steering clear of water cooling. Computer is mostly going to be used for gaming and running applications at ridiculously fast speeds

as of now I am going to stick with the 5850 but hope to run some Xfire in the near future with an extra 5850 or would that not show much of an improvement?

also my hd will be run in Raid 0, I know that won't be ridiculous fast compared to ssd or even a 10000 rpm drive. but how would two drives in raid 0 compare to one 10000 rpm drive?

Theocnoob · 10-16-09, 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazyman2501

I am hoping to do a stable overclock at around 4 ghz. I was told that the Prolimatech Megahalems is really hard to beat in terms of air cooling and as of now for cost reasons am steering clear of water cooling. Computer is mostly going to be used for gaming and running applications at ridiculously fast speeds

as of now I am going to stick with the 5850 but hope to run some Xfire in the near future with an extra 5850 or would that not show much of an improvement?

also my hd will be run in Raid 0, I know that won't be ridiculous fast compared to ssd or even a 10000 rpm drive. but how would two drives in raid 0 compare to one 10000 rpm drive?

Raid has a higher potential fail rate.

Do you really want a hard drive at this point? SSD's aren't expensive. I'd urge you to get a 128GB SSD and a 1TB slow cheap 'bitch' drive... That's what I'd do now.

Flurp · 10-16-09, 06:52 AM

you can always get a smaller SSD to run main apps and os off of?

gregers05 · 10-16-09, 01:08 PM

nothing wrong with the mobo you have now but check out the gigabite UD3R for the i7920. under 200 bucks and a good board. it will still get you to 4ghz.

also going with a non-modular PS will cut another $50, but really it depends on what you prefer.

crazyman2501 · 10-16-09, 02:36 PM

I thought the CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX was non-modular...and does anyone know how much faster a ssd would be compared to a raid 0 set up, will check prices of ssd though

Quigsby · 10-16-09, 03:24 PM

The TX is non-modular. The HX series from Corsair is the modular ones. SSD is a different kind of fast. The access/seek times are almost non existent so if you were to load a level in a game it'd be very fast. Boot times would be reduced significantly. If you'd like to make an informed decision check out sites like Anandtech (honestly he's lead the field in research behind SSDs - at least from the consumer side of things).

crazyman2501 · 10-30-09, 01:30 PM

Definitely seems like ssd are the way to go in terms of speed but for now I can't pay that much . Think I will just get one 1tb wb black drive and suffer through the slow speeds until I get a ssd. The price can really only go down for ssd and maybe after Christmas I can catch a good deal. Was thinking of the Western Digital VelociRaptor for now but if I intend on getting a ssd I am going to need the 1TB drive for storage. Unless there is some magical place people are getting these cheap cuz I am finding them at newegg for around $300

visbits · 10-30-09, 09:38 PM

i7 920 x58 rig for sure. You can drop an i9 in there later

Neuromancer · 10-30-09, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Theocnoob

Build the X58. Use a DX58SO. It's cheap(er)
You don't need SLI.

Someone recommending an Intel motherboard? First I have ever heard of that LOL

Think there is a microcenter in IL, get your CPU there, save about $70. (199.99 + tax but no shipping )

Might have better deals on mobos too.

deed · 10-30-09, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazyman2501

Definitely seems like ssd are the way to go in terms of speed but for now I can't pay that much . Think I will just get one 1tb wb black drive and suffer through the slow speeds until I get a ssd. The price can really only go down for ssd and maybe after Christmas I can catch a good deal. Was thinking of the Western Digital VelociRaptor for now but if I intend on getting a ssd I am going to need the 1TB drive for storage. Unless there is some magical place people are getting these cheap cuz I am finding them at newegg for around $300

I found 2 raptors in raid 0 with a spare backup drive to 1: be cheaper
2: offer more space
3: it is still very fast as my computer takes around 5 seconds to boot.

jgv115 · 10-30-09, 10:59 PM

5 seconds my ass

deed · 10-31-09, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jgv115

5 seconds my ass

Any programs that record startup time?

jgv115 · 11-01-09, 01:23 AM

The guys that have RAIDed SSDs get around 20 seconds (from what I can remember).

With my barracuda's I get 40 seconds, so you should be nearly the 25 second mark.

Just use a stop watch... Programs just record the time you shut down and the time you boot your computer up and look at the difference...

JCP21 · 11-01-09, 11:09 AM

I wish i got 20 seconds

crazyman2501 · 11-03-09, 12:47 PM

forgot to mention that I want to either have SLI and Crossfire if I want to run either in the future. Also where is the best place to buy the 920 if I want to get a good chip to overclock?

deed · 11-03-09, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jgv115

The guys that have RAIDed SSDs get around 20 seconds (from what I can remember).

With my barracuda's I get 40 seconds, so you should be nearly the 25 second mark.

Just use a stop watch... Programs just record the time you shut down and the time you boot your computer up and look at the difference...

Sorry its not 5 seconds its 12 lol.... each time I walked out of the room and came back it was done so i thought it was 5

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazyman2501

forgot to mention that I want to either have SLI and Crossfire if I want to run either in the future. Also where is the best place to buy the 920 if I want to get a good chip to overclock?

Newegg is good for the chip
I dont think you really need *correction corssfire* for the 5850 unless you really want to....

crazyman2501 · 11-05-09, 08:10 PM

would newegg get me a good stepping, I think that is what it is called, also would this be a good thread to update my build as it comes along? have gotten a few parts in and am starting to put things together

10-15-09, 07:26 PM	#1
crazyman2501 Registered Join Date: May 2008 Location: Normal, IL	Still trying to figure out what to get for first build I have been going back and forth between either x58 or p55 and priced out two separate rigs for each. X58 COOLER MASTER HAF 932 $139.99 CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX $99.99 Intel Core i7-920 $279.99 EVGA E758-A1 3-Way SLI $279.99 mushkin 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 6-7-6-18 $184.99 Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB $94.99 Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB $94.99 SAPPHIRE 100282SR Radeon HD 5850 1GB $259.99 $1,434.92 P55 COOLER MASTER HAF 932 $139.99 CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX $99.99 Intel Core i7-860 $289.99 EVGA P55 FTW $219.99 mushkin 4GB (2 x 2GB) 1600 7-7-6-18 $127.99 Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB $94.99 Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB $94.99 SAPPHIRE 100282SR Radeon HD 5850 1GB $259.99 $1,327.92 is there going to be a huge over clock potential versus either one? and any thoughts on either setup? also didn't think the cost was going to go up as fast as it did...

10-16-09, 04:12 AM	#5
jgv115 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Australia	Will you be running crossfire or SLI. __________________ CPU: Core i5 750 Mobo: Gigabyte GA-P55-UD4P GPU: Asus ATI HD4850 RAM: Kingston 2X2GB DDR3 1333mhz PSU: Asus U-65GA 650W Case: Asus TA-M11 HDD: 3X Seagate Barracuda 7200.8 ST3400832AS 400GB 7200 RPM in RAID0

10-16-09, 05:18 AM	#7
Theocnoob Member Join Date: Dec 2007	Build the X58. Use a DX58SO. It's cheap(er) You don't need SLI. __________________ http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=624563 Click here for tear jerking laughs

10-16-09, 06:18 AM	#8
crazyman2501 Registered Join Date: May 2008 Location: Normal, IL	I am hoping to do a stable overclock at around 4 ghz. I was told that the Prolimatech Megahalems is really hard to beat in terms of air cooling and as of now for cost reasons am steering clear of water cooling. Computer is mostly going to be used for gaming and running applications at ridiculously fast speeds as of now I am going to stick with the 5850 but hope to run some Xfire in the near future with an extra 5850 or would that not show much of an improvement? also my hd will be run in Raid 0, I know that won't be ridiculous fast compared to ssd or even a 10000 rpm drive. but how would two drives in raid 0 compare to one 10000 rpm drive? Last edited by crazyman2501; 10-16-09 at 06:18 AM. Reason: mistake

10-16-09, 01:08 PM	#11
gregers05 Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Kennesaw, GA	nothing wrong with the mobo you have now but check out the gigabite UD3R for the i7920. under 200 bucks and a good board. it will still get you to 4ghz. also going with a non-modular PS will cut another $50, but really it depends on what you prefer. __________________ Rig Under construction i7 920 DO Prolimatech Megahalems w/ push-pull Asus P6T Deluxe V2 6GB Corsair XMS3 1600 Corsair 750TX XFX Radeon 5770 Antec 900 2X WD 640GB Blacks-RAID 0,1 matrix

10-15-09, 07:51 PM	#2
Flurp Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Hawaii	go amd if you want to lower the cost

10-16-09, 03:35 AM	#3
crazyman2501 Registered Join Date: May 2008 Location: Normal, IL	Is there no way to lower the cost if I want to go Intel? and 1500 is really my max budget but if I could get more around the 1000 dollar line that would be better

10-16-09, 03:44 AM	#4
Flurp Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Hawaii	There is, though I wouldn't be the best to give you advice, so I'm going to try not to try looking up reviews of the parts you picked. double check that each part is compatible (ie: ram compatible with mobo) etc... but I'm sure by tomorrow some of those Intel lovers will post in here if not I'll try to find some information for ya though I think most of them will tell ya go for the 920... also do you plan on overclocking, and what type of heatsinks and cooling will you be utilizing?

10-16-09, 04:19 AM	#6
Flurp Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Hawaii	He only said one gfx card so I do not believe so...

10-16-09, 06:52 AM	#10
Flurp Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Hawaii	you can always get a smaller SSD to run main apps and os off of?

10-16-09, 02:36 PM	#12
crazyman2501 Registered Join Date: May 2008 Location: Normal, IL	I thought the CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX was non-modular...and does anyone know how much faster a ssd would be compared to a raid 0 set up, will check prices of ssd though

10-16-09, 03:24 PM	#13
Quigsby Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Fargo, ND	The TX is non-modular. The HX series from Corsair is the modular ones. SSD is a different kind of fast. The access/seek times are almost non existent so if you were to load a level in a game it'd be very fast. Boot times would be reduced significantly. If you'd like to make an informed decision check out sites like Anandtech (honestly he's lead the field in research behind SSDs - at least from the consumer side of things). __________________ Quigsby Rig 1: Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L / Intel E8400 w/ Rosewill cooler / Antec 900 / 2GBx2 OCZ SLI PC800 / EVGA 9600GT / Cooler Master 750W Rig 2: abit IP35-E / Intel E8500 w/ HDT-S1383 / Chenming case / 2GBx2 G.Skill 1066 / Raptor 74GB + WD640 / EVGA 8800GS / Fortron 500W Blue Storm

10-30-09, 01:30 PM	#14
crazyman2501 Registered Join Date: May 2008 Location: Normal, IL	Definitely seems like ssd are the way to go in terms of speed but for now I can't pay that much . Think I will just get one 1tb wb black drive and suffer through the slow speeds until I get a ssd. The price can really only go down for ssd and maybe after Christmas I can catch a good deal. Was thinking of the Western Digital VelociRaptor for now but if I intend on getting a ssd I am going to need the 1TB drive for storage. Unless there is some magical place people are getting these cheap cuz I am finding them at newegg for around $300

10-30-09, 09:38 PM	#15
visbits Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Mexico	i7 920 x58 rig for sure. You can drop an i9 in there later __________________ King of RAID: ITX Switch PC & Project: Rackmount Underkill Workstation: 1366 I7 920 @ 4.2 \| HIS Radeon 4890 \| Evga MATX X58 \| 2x Intel X25-M (80GB SSD) Raid 0 \| 2x WD Black 1TB Raid 1 \| PC P&C 750 \| Antec Mini P180 Development Server: Dual Opty 285's \| 8 x 1Gb pc3200 ECC \| 6 x 320GB Perc 5i / Raid 5 \| 5x 72GB 15k HP 6i 641 U320 / Raid 5 \| Corsair TX 750 \| Norco tiny rack case 100% Ebay Rep: tylerbishop2003 \| 100% HEATWARE

10-30-09, 10:59 PM	#18
jgv115 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Australia	5 seconds my ass __________________ CPU: Core i5 750 Mobo: Gigabyte GA-P55-UD4P GPU: Asus ATI HD4850 RAM: Kingston 2X2GB DDR3 1333mhz PSU: Asus U-65GA 650W Case: Asus TA-M11 HDD: 3X Seagate Barracuda 7200.8 ST3400832AS 400GB 7200 RPM in RAID0

11-01-09, 01:23 AM	#20
jgv115 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Australia	The guys that have RAIDed SSDs get around 20 seconds (from what I can remember). With my barracuda's I get 40 seconds, so you should be nearly the 25 second mark. Just use a stop watch... Programs just record the time you shut down and the time you boot your computer up and look at the difference... __________________ CPU: Core i5 750 Mobo: Gigabyte GA-P55-UD4P GPU: Asus ATI HD4850 RAM: Kingston 2X2GB DDR3 1333mhz PSU: Asus U-65GA 650W Case: Asus TA-M11 HDD: 3X Seagate Barracuda 7200.8 ST3400832AS 400GB 7200 RPM in RAID0

11-01-09, 11:09 AM	#21
JCP21 New Member Join Date: Oct 2009	I wish i got 20 seconds

11-03-09, 12:47 PM	#22
crazyman2501 Registered Join Date: May 2008 Location: Normal, IL	forgot to mention that I want to either have SLI and Crossfire if I want to run either in the future. Also where is the best place to buy the 920 if I want to get a good chip to overclock?

11-05-09, 08:10 PM	#24
crazyman2501 Registered Join Date: May 2008 Location: Normal, IL	would newegg get me a good stepping, I think that is what it is called, also would this be a good thread to update my build as it comes along? have gotten a few parts in and am starting to put things together