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[ratbuddy]

Not a happy panda.. I just knocked over my damn 2233RZ, and it cracked. Gotta wait till Monday to see if I can even pay Samsung to replace the stinkin panel. Augh. If not, it's going on Ebay for parts. It has the same panel as some of their other 22" monitors, so someone could use it to upgrade their display to 120hz, if they know how. :mad:

[thideras]

<sarcasm>
That looks like that'll just buff right out
*grabs buffing unit*
</sarcasm>


That sucks :-/

[MongGrel]

:eek:

Frig I didn't even know they'd post text like that.

[ratbuddy]

I'm making a darn screen shield for my next monitor out of some museum acrylic. The glass in an LCD is apparently so thin it can't even handle falling over onto the keyboard..

I had an old 19" TV that dropped from a height of about 4 feet and landed on the screen, and didn't break.

edit: BTW, sitting about 2 feet from a 42" 1080p screen is actually kinda cool. I might have to move the video card over to this system for a little while :beer:

[nd4spdbh2]

OUCH... that is an expensive 22incher!

[Amtrak]

Always a bummer when things like this happen. How'd it get knocked over?

[ratbuddy]

Always a bummer when things like this happen. How'd it get knocked over?

Reached past it to open the blinds and coming back, my elbow just nudged it enough to tip over. Not like it fell off anything or whatever either, just tipped over onto the keyboard and made a noise I know well from my picture framing days - a little birdseye chip coming out of glass.

[Neuromancer]

Wow, I guess I should stop throwing my LCDs around :s

[jediman]

well i don't think it's "glass" that broke and you shouldn't be surprised falling over on a keyboard could kill it. LCD's (without additional protection) can be damaged by even slight pressure.

btw. I saw some awesome stuff corning was showing off at a show called gorrilla glass that is going in the next gen of portable players and maybe laptops. stuff was amazing. They let us take a pen to it and other modern strengthened glasses. the strengthened glasses would shatter with a bit of force but a good 10 people could not break the gorilla glass even when beating on it like their lives depended on it. the table it was on was making sounds like it wanted to break before the glass. They also had a thin version of the stuff that you could bend a 3/4 of a centimeter. they didn't let us test how far it would bend before it would break because they only had 1 piece there.

[MooMasster716]

well i don't think it's "glass" that broke and you shouldn't be surprised falling over on a keyboard could kill it. LCD's (without additional protection) can be damaged by even slight pressure.

btw. I saw some awesome stuff corning was showing off at a show called gorrilla glass that is going in the next gen of portable players and maybe laptops. stuff was amazing. They let us take a pen to it and other modern strengthened glasses. the strengthened glasses would shatter with a bit of force but a good 10 people could not break the gorilla glass even when beating on it like their lives depended on it. the table it was on was making sounds like it wanted to break before the glass. They also had a thin version of the stuff that you could bend a 3/4 of a centimeter. they didn't let us test how far it would bend before it would break because they only had 1 piece there.

They shot it with an arrow and it still didn't break. Also I remember trying to break my old crt before i threw it away and it took more than a few hits from rocks to even crack it. That glass was like 1/2 in thick and strong.

[jediman]

ya crt's are a sonofa. wtb gorrilla glass everything. They wouldn't tell me how much the stuff costs i would guess cause they could tell i obviously would not be buying any.

I assume the stuff is going to be tested as bullet resistant glass as well. Hopefully it can replace sapphire windows on the cheap.

[ratbuddy]

well i don't think it's "glass" that broke and you shouldn't be surprised falling over on a keyboard could kill it. LCD's (without additional protection) can be damaged by even slight pressure.

Trust me, the glass is what broke.

edit: Augh I'm back in 1998 or something. Borrowed a 17" 1280x1024 LCD, sooooo small. 28" gets here Tuesday :bday:

[ratbuddy]

So a new panel is $318 plus shipping and labor. No other monitors share the panel with the 2233RZ. Ugh.

[Kalivos]

Trust me, the glass is what broke.

edit: Augh I'm back in 1998 or something. Borrowed a 17" 1280x1024 LCD, sooooo small. 28" gets here Tuesday :bday:

1998? Psht. I paid $350 for my 17" 1280x1024 LCD back in 2004.

So much money..and it was such a nice monitor..

[sandyduff]

What 28 incher did you get...?

[ratbuddy]

What 28 incher did you get...?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824254026 :santa:

Should be here in the next hour or 2.

[sandyduff]

Very nice... All you need to do now is find somebody who broke there nvidia 3D glasses and sell your functional ones to them!!

[RJARRRPCGP]

Trust me, the glass is what broke.

edit: Augh I'm back in 1998 or something. Borrowed a 17" 1280x1024 LCD, sooooo small. 28" gets here Tuesday :bday:

LOL 17 inch LCDs didn't exist in 1998. (except for laptops)

They only had CRTs and even 85 Hz is hard to come by, thus, expect some wavy-ness, if it's from 1998!

Because you should have at least 100 hz for a CRT.

2003 was when LCDs just started trickling into the mainstream market. And even in 2006, LCDs were hard to get!

In fact, pretty much about all of the LCDs before 2006 sucked.

At least, CRTs are known to last a long time!

TBH, LCDs since 2008 seem to be reasonable.

That really sux!

[ratbuddy]

I was using a 15" or 17" CRT at 1280x1024 back then :) Didn't mean it literally.

edit:

Very nice... All you need to do now is find somebody who broke there nvidia 3D glasses and sell your functional ones to them!!

They also work with DLP TV's that say 3d ready. Mitsubishi is officially supported but others will work.

[sandyduff]

I love my CRT.... :D

[ratbuddy]

Note to self: cut out a cardboard mockup before you order another monitor. This thing is gigantic. Wife mocking mercilessly. :rolleyes:

edit: Note to self: remove incriminating posts like this one from the screen before she comes over and sees it. :argue:

[Shiggity]

Don't you like how when you knock over an expensive electronic it always tends to fall on the one part that's the most fragile?

[nightelph]

They also work with DLP TV's that say 3d ready. Mitsubishi is officially supported but others will work.

Is your new screen NOT 3D ready? I have a pair of glasses, but no receiver, and no idea if a dell 2408 is 3D ready, highly doubt it.

You could bolt/affix a much larger base to your monitor, or use this as an excuse to get an articulating arm mount!

[ratbuddy]

Is your new screen NOT 3D ready? I have a pair of glasses, but no receiver, and no idea if a dell 2408 is 3D ready, highly doubt it.

You could bolt/affix a much larger base to your monitor, or use this as an excuse to get an articulating arm mount!

There's only 2 LCDs that work with the 3D stuff, the 2233RZ, and an inferior Viewsonic. Both 22", no bigger ones yet. There's also a certain model of projector, some DLPs, and CRTs that can refresh fast enough.

[nightelph]

Gotcha, I read up on it at nvidia's website. I sent them an email too to see if I could buy the transceiver separately. Not that I have a monitor to use it on or anything, but whatevs!

[jediman]

well you can do 3d on any monitor you'll just be getting a lot fewer fps per eye.

[nightelph]

well you can do 3d on any monitor you'll just be getting a lot fewer fps per eye.

Ahhh. Now I got it. So your frame rate is cut in half to each eye @ 60hz, which is why they want you to buy a 120hz monitor, so you don't lose frames. What if I play a game that my rig can run at 150fps? :) COD4 is on the list.

The games list (http://www.nvidia.com/object/GeForce_3D_Vision_3D_Games.html) is much larger than I thought.

[ratbuddy]

Ahhh. Now I got it. So your frame rate is cut in half to each eye @ 60hz, which is why they want you to buy a 120hz monitor, so you don't lose frames. What if I play a game that my rig can run at 150fps? :) COD4 is on the list.

The games list (http://www.nvidia.com/object/GeForce_3D_Vision_3D_Games.html) is much larger than I thought.

Same as if you ran a game at 75fps on a 60hz monitor. Either turn on vsync or get a little tearing.

COD4 is one of the most beautiful games I've played in 3d. The crosshairs are done properly so you can close one eye and still be accurate if you want.

[nightelph]

Nice! This thread is going to turn into the #@!$%#$@%#@! - [Official] nVision Thread if we're not careful. I'm still trying to get nvidia to sell me just a transmitter.

[ratbuddy]

Yes/no would I be a complete retard to try and grab this (assuming it stays so cheap) http://cgi.ebay.com/Samsung-Syncmaster-2233RZ-Black-22_W0QQitemZ200367709030QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCompute r_Monitors?hash=item2ea6d89b66&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

http://cgi.ebay.com/Samsung-Syncmaster-2233RZ-22-5ms-HDCP-LCD-Monitor_W0QQitemZ120453060797QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCo mputer_Monitors?hash=item1c0b8fd8bd&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14 also... hmmmmmm... Maybe I should just snag one of the used ones, and throw the whole mess (including the glasses and monitor with broken panel but good electronics as a spare) in the classies for $250 or so :)

[ChinStrap]

if you have a 28 on the way, i would just go w/ that.

:/

[creecher]

i was afraid of that happening to me, because i can be clumsy sometimes, so even though my 32'' tv sat right up against a wall on my desk, i decided to wall mount it.

[ratbuddy]

if you have a 28 on the way, i would just go w/ that.

:/

28" is already here :) I like it.. Just wondering if I oughta bother buying a used 2233RZ just to be able to sell the 3d kit easier.

[Chaos_Being]

Any noticable motion blur, or other flaws on that monitor? I'm considering finally switching to an LCD (my FPW900 is sadly getting more and more blurry and is starting to hurt my eyes :() I've been thinking about this monitor, or perhaps the 25.5" Asus for about the same price.

[pinkles]

When some screens break they do kool stuff, like on youtube there are a bunch of videos of people drilling into their laptop screens, and it looks REALLY cool :D

[rainless]

+1,000,000,000,000 points for thread title. :beer:

[ratbuddy]

Any noticable motion blur, or other flaws on that monitor? I'm considering finally switching to an LCD (my FPW900 is sadly getting more and more blurry and is starting to hurt my eyes :() I've been thinking about this monitor, or perhaps the 25.5" Asus for about the same price.

Yeah, one major flaw.. It breaks pretty easily :rolleyes:

Other than that, it's just a bit small. Now that I've gotten used to 28", I'd never go back to anything smaller.

[rainless]

Yeah, one major flaw.. It breaks pretty easily :rolleyes:

Other than that, it's just a bit small. Now that I've gotten used to 28", I'd never go back to anything smaller.

32" HDTV. Went down to a 19" CRT... not too happy about it.

Going back up to a 22inch 1080p.

And the problem with your monitor: The stand.

It would've been impossible to tilt the BenQ or Asus that I'm looking at like that.

[ratbuddy]

32" HDTV. Went down to a 19" CRT... not too happy about it.

Going back up to a 22inch 1080p.

And the problem with your monitor: The stand.

It would've been impossible to tilt the BenQ or Asus that I'm looking at like that.

Take a look at the Hanns-G 28" 1920x1200 thingy. It's only $300 shipped and looks amazing.