View Full Version : hd movies on a 16:10 monitor?
BlackEdition
08-06-08, 02:59 PM
when playing hd content on a 16:10 lcd monitor, is the image stretched, or is the window altered on the screen to display in the correct aspect ratio...
just curious...
Graphicism
08-06-08, 03:04 PM
You just get larger borders on a 16:10 than on a 16:9 is all
If you're using VLC, you can crop the video so that it will eliminate bars (for any resolution, and video size).
Graphicism
08-06-08, 03:44 PM
If you're using VLC, you can crop the video so that it will eliminate bars (for any resolution, and video size).
If you crop the movie to get rid of the top and bottom bar your loosing a lot of the movie... 40, 50% even.
It's not a big loss when it's going from 16:9 to a 16:10 ;)
Graphicism
08-06-08, 04:13 PM
It's not a big loss when it's going from 16:9 to a 16:10 ;)
Sure but 16:9 to 16:10 you'll still have borders on HD content which is 1.85:1
I'm not trying to argue or anything, just trying to educate myself on this. Going by what's based on this page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspect_ratio_(image)) it looks like 1.85:1 is 16:10. So the OP's question was...
when playing hd content on a 16:10 lcd monitor, is the image stretched, or is the window altered on the screen to display in the correct aspect ratio.
To answer plainly, yes the image has bars on it.
"HDTV broadcast has solidified 1.77:1" (or 16:9) so that watching such content on a 16:10 screen would pillarbox it, or have bars along the side.
So essentially, cropping a 16:9 to fit on a 16:10 only eliminates just a slice off of the top and bottom.
I would guess a 5-20% loss. Sacrificing that sliver of film wont ruin the movie (not like 4:3 :shivers: ).
Graphicism
08-06-08, 04:56 PM
"HDTV broadcast has solidified 1.77:1" (or 16:9) so that watching such content on a 16:10 screen would pillarbox it, or have bars along the side.
So essentially, cropping a 16:9 to fit on a 16:10 only eliminates just a slice off of the top and bottom.
Maybe I am off with my aspect ratio but from what I have seen on my main TV which is 1080P almost all HD movies are letterboxed, the only full screen (16:9) content I have seen so far is HD series such as Huff, Lost etc. A HD movie on a 16:10 would just have larger bars then 16:9, sure you can zoom in a little and crop of a bit of the movie, to get rid of the bars all together I'm sure it would be about 50% of the visible movie?
Out of interest do you know what the aspect ratio is of HD movies? I wonder why they don't make TV's in this aspect ratio?
The standard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-definition_television#High-Definition_Display_Resolutions) ratio for HDTV is 16:9.
And aspect ratios have forever been "proprietary". Everyone want's everyone to use their format.
Historically speaking, a single format will last for about 25 or so years depending on how much dependency for that ratio/format is.
Then it's on to bigger and more crisper things!
tom10167
08-06-08, 05:30 PM
I watch tons of Blu-Rays and standard DVDs and DVD on TV and widescreen TV on DVD etc. and it all plays fine.
I use PowerDVD 8 for Blu-Ray, which seems to be absolutely terrible for DVD so for regular DVD I use WinDVD 4
Graphicism
08-06-08, 07:15 PM
The standard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-definition_television#High-Definition_Display_Resolutions) ratio for HDTV is 16:9.
I know, which still produces huge top and bottom borders with HD movies... BlueRay etc.
dogbert_2001
08-07-08, 10:54 AM
If you crop a 16:9 to 16:10, you're removing the sides. 16:9 is wider than 16:10.
I don't see why people hate black bars. It's MORE annoying to crop things out of the picture or have people be stretched fat or thin. If your room is dark enough, you won't see the black bars.
doublejack
08-07-08, 11:29 AM
Maybe I am off with my aspect ratio but from what I have seen on my main TV which is 1080P almost all HD movies are letterboxed, the only full screen (16:9) content I have seen so far is HD series such as Huff, Lost etc. A HD movie on a 16:10 would just have larger bars then 16:9, sure you can zoom in a little and crop of a bit of the movie, to get rid of the bars all together I'm sure it would be about 50% of the visible movie?
Out of interest do you know what the aspect ratio is of HD movies? I wonder why they don't make TV's in this aspect ratio?
There are many movies that are formatted in exactly 16:9 for DVD, blu-ray and HD-DVD release. One example is the movie The World's Fastest Indian. In theaters, it was shown in a 2.35:1 wide aspect ratio so it would have had quite large letterbox bars on even HD televisions. What the studio did was open up the matte, exposing more of the top and bottom of the 35mm film the movie was filmed on. Nothing was cropped off the sides. So when you watch it on a HD television there are no black bars at all.
Other movies have their aspect ratio modified but not all of the way to 16:9, just to reduce the size of the letterboxing. Rarely is this done by cropping the sides. It is also growing more common to film directly on 1.78:1 3-perforation 35mm film, so movies are natively 16:9 to begin with.
I own about 200 HD-DVD's and a good portion of them present the film in a 16:9 ratio, or close to it. The practice is somewhat less common with anamorphic DVD's, but they also can be found pretty easily.
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