The NEW SOYO SY-P4S DRAGON Ultra Mobo is coming to a P4 near you!

[DOCTOR EVIL]

Go to http://www.soyousa.com to find out more about this awsome Pentium 4 board! :burn:

[DOCTOR EVIL]

I guess nobody cares for this very nice MoBo! :( :( :mad:

[funnyperson1]

thats cause not many people are interested in P4s, but that is quite a nice mobo....

[R.N.]

Next summer I plan on building my first o.c. P4 computer and am going to base it around the Soyo SY-P41SR mobo.
Specs.- 400fsb,3 Gig max memory,up to 2.0 GHz processor support. Item#5450-2100,price $169.99

[Yodums]

Originally posted by R.N.
Next summer I plan on building my first o.c. P4 computer and am going to base it around the Soyo SY-P41SR mobo.
Specs.- 400fsb,3 Gig max memory,up to 2.0 GHz processor support. Item#5450-2100,price $169.99


LOL Next summer?
Wait for the new one.. *forgets the name* Ithalium or something ;p

hehe

There's going to be way better mobos in the future since next summer is a big gap.. So just wait :p
Half a year.

[Yodums]

Originally posted by R.N.
Next summer I plan on building my first o.c. P4 computer and am going to base it around the Soyo SY-P41SR mobo.
Specs.- 400fsb,3 Gig max memory,up to 2.0 GHz processor support. Item#5450-2100,price $169.99

By the way..

Why do you need 3gigs of ram!!!
I mean 1gig is enough already :)

[jazztrumpet216]

Ithalium??? You mean Itanium??? That wouldn't be very practical at all... that's mainly a server chip. And I mean heavy-duty servers. I don't think you'll see any of those for consumer use... then again you can never have too much power....

[R.N.]

You are right about that, I keep forgetting that computer systems age like dogs do. By next summer there might be 3 Gig mobos with on-board sound that has 24-bit/96-kHz digital to analog converters and 32-bit digital mixing capabilities.:D

[R.N.]

The reason I seek the most memory is because my new system will be the brain of my new home recording studio. I plan on using a plain 2.0 GhZ P4 CPU, nothing fancy.

[Yodums]

Originally posted by R.N.
The reason I seek the most memory is because my new system will be the brain of my new home recording studio. I plan on using a plain 2.0 GhZ P4 CPU, nothing fancy.

Oh.. By then the 2.0gig won't be that expensive .. They will sorta be like the 800 now.

[Yodums]

Originally posted by jazztrumpet216
Ithalium??? You mean Itanium??? That wouldn't be very practical at all... that's mainly a server chip. And I mean heavy-duty servers. I don't think you'll see any of those for consumer use... then again you can never have too much power....

I never really got into those chips.. :p Not much people even talk about it anyways so don't blame me!

[R.N.]

Also by next summer the new o.s. from microsoft will be out, now it is code name: Whistler. The new o.s. will not require to be rebooted and will be able to multi-task better than any o.s. on the market including 3rd party.:eek:

[DOCTOR EVIL]

I'm just letting you guys know about this SOYO DRAGON Ultra P4

Mobo. that supports 2.0GHz and up when they come out because

I own a SOYO DRAGON Original Mobo. and a NEW SOYO DRAGON

PLUS Mobo. for my ATHON ThunderBird 1.4GHz OC to 1680MHZ

Max. exactely. Also for my ATHLON XP 1800+ OC to 1725MHz right

now and I might try to take it higher. I just hope that I doesn't

die on me if I OC it any higher than this. What I'm really trying to

say here is that SOYO makes some damn good Motherboards

that OC. very well and their quality and perfomance is excelent.

So get yourself a SOYO DRAGON ULTRA for Intel Pentium 4 chips

and let me know how they work for you. :cool:

[R.N.]

Was that the SY-P41SR mobo?

[jazztrumpet216]

Originally posted by Yodums


I never really got into those chips.. :p Not much people even talk about it anyways so don't blame me!

Sorry man, didn't want it to come off that way. They're not very well publicized to consumers... so I'm betting most of us don't know a lot about them. I just basically know they're not consumer chips.

[Kool_Aid]

Bahhhh.....that's an SDram board :(

[R.N.]

Originally posted by Kool_Aid
Bahhhh.....that's an SDram board :(
Ahh, sorry little one but it is a DDR mobo and it is on the high end of the evolutionary scale, ugh.:beer:

[DeepScience]

Well the link doesn't work for me

[funnyperson1]

Originally posted by R.N.
Also by next summer the new o.s. from microsoft will be out, now it is code name: Whistler. The new o.s. will not require to be rebooted and will be able to multi-task better than any o.s. on the market including 3rd party.:eek:

ummm dude, whistler=Windows XP, whistler is already out, and it didnt help the P4 that much, it still gets crushed in most tests, also make sure that theDragon supports the Northwoods, because then when you upgrade your CPU youll have more options...

[Kool_Aid]

Like I said.............it's a SDram board................DDR - SDRAM

Why cripple a P4 with DDR?

[jazztrumpet216]

Originally posted by funnyperson1


ummm dude, whistler=Windows XP, whistler is already out, and it didnt help the P4 that much, it still gets crushed in most tests, also make sure that theDragon supports the Northwoods, because then when you upgrade your CPU youll have more options...

Yea, I thought Whistler was WinXP too, but I wasn't 100% on that and didn't wanna look like an @ss....

[R.N.]

Originally posted by Kool_Aid
Like I said.............it's a SDram board................DDR - SDRAM

Why cripple a P4 with DDR?
Explain yourself patriot.:eh?:

[R.N.]

DDR is the next step in the refining process,and my mistake the new o.s. is Whistler II. Sorry about the mix-up.

[Kool_Aid]

From a post in the memory section..............................

Quoted from a post from BLitzKrieG0187



First off, lets look at the specs. in comparison: So far, there are three types of DDR-SD RAM for your comp, one that was specifically used in utilizing the AMD 200MHz FSB. The newer types, PC2100 and PC2700 utilize AMD's newer FSB speeds. The newest PC2700 DDR-SDRAM has a delivery bandwidth of 2,666Mbs........ roughly 2.7Gbs, hence the name PC2700. Anyway, this RAM delivers at 333Mhz, it is also called DDR-333 RAM. So let's break it down, 333Mhz/~2.7Gbs per sec. This is the most advanced DDR-SDRAM is on the market right now for your comp. Now, let's have a look at what RD-RAM, or RAMBUS, has to offer in terms of power and so forth. RAMBUS has three new common forms, PC600, PC700, and PC800. Looking at the newest RD-RAM, PC800, it utilizes P4's 400MHz FSB speed, and has a delivery bandwidth of 3.2Gbs per sec. RD-RAM utilizes a dual-channel delivery system,which, in turn, delivers the RAMBUS at a finalized set speed of 800Mhz, hence the name PC800 RD-RAM. Broken down, this is expressed as 800MHz/3.2Gbs per sec. Even if DDR-SD RAM was running at 400MHz, that would still be only half the speed, or only utilizing one channel, that RD-RAM can offer as well as support. In terms of bandwidth on the RAM, RD-RAM still has over a 1/2 Gigabyte lead in delivery per second. Now, I am not saying that DDR-RAM isn't good enough, or is inferrior. I am just saying that I definitely don't think that DDR-RAM is all that it is coughed up to be for actual "system memory".

SDRAM is a dead end. If you can afford a P4, you can afford RAMBUS.

If you insist on using DDR-SDRAM, get an AMD.

[R.N.]

On a benchtest conducted by PCWorld to test SDRAM,DDR and RDRAM and it went like this: The RDRAM system outran the old SDRAM only by small margins but the DDR system outpaced both systems on most of the test, including a multi-media task an area where the RDRAM was expected to be victorious,not. The DDR system completed the AutoCAD 2000 test in 7 min. and 18 secs. while the RDRAM sytem finished in 9 min. and 1 sec.
Like you stated pros. like the p4 and RDRAM combo because Intel and Rambus designed the techno to complement eachother. And like you said the RDRAM has dual-channels and has an FSB that supports transfers up to 3.2 GB as the P4 while DDR can support 2.1 GB at most. So now you might be asking yourself how the DDR system beat the RDRAM system? Well acorrding to Senior analyst Kevin Krewell of M.D.R, the RDRAM's large bandwidth may not offer much benefit with standard business apps. yet it comes in handy for processing multimedia which used large chunks of data, but it is not fully utilized in business apps., which use short burst of data. In handling those short busts of data, RDRAM suffers from its biggest drawback, longer latency, which is the amount of time between when a CPU asks for data from memory and when it actually arrives. Now don't get me wrong I like RDRAM too, my current system is running 1 Gig of RDRAM so money is no barrier for me. It is performance that counts. :burn:

[DOCTOR EVIL]

Yeah R.N.! I have also read that Artical in PC WORLD MAGAZINE too and it says that DDR SD-RAM has a way lower latency than RD-RAM. That's what gives it an advantage. :)

[R.N.]

Like I said I like both types of memory for different applications and maybe the latancy problem will be fixed in the not-so-far future. For now thou, the best is DDR as far as ability and reliability. Yet in the end they all work at acceptable rates, if anything the thing to do is get more memory to make life better.:beer:

[Dark Illusion]

I'd like to see a two-way interleaved SD-ram chipset for the P4=)

[R.N.]

Now theres an idea.:)