2007fpw replacement is HERE!

[d94]

well, almost
my lazy ass was still sleeping downstairs @ 9.30am when they tried to deliver :bang head
i guess that's why the dog was barking so early! Gahh
anyways, ill be picking it up later today and confirming that its fixed aswell as comparing it to my old 2007..to see if i have a diff revision or how the picture is in general.

Q: i have 30 days to send my other one right?
cuz id LOVE to try running 3x 20" WS lcd's @ once :bday:

[Richie P]

Awesome. Post the revision number that should be labelled on the back on the monitor and if you can, post all details about BIOS and stuff.

And most importantly, lets us know if it's solvedyour problems! Banding right?

[lordkosc]

Well I got mine dropped off from fedex today, the gradient problem is fixed as far as I can tell. So that is good.

The Rev is A02, its on the back of the monitor as well as the box!

BUT!!!!!!!!! My new 2007FPW Rev A02 has 3 dead pixels! :mad: :mad: :mad:

I've posted on the Dell forums waiting to see what can be done for me.

My 2007FPW Rev A00, with the banding issue has no dead pixels!

It really ticks me off to have one issue fixed and now have another presented to me!

What would you do in my situation? :shrug:

[Silversinksam]

Awesome. Post the revision number that should be labelled on the back on the monitor and if you can, post all details about BIOS and stuff.

And most importantly, lets us know if it's solvedyour problems! Banding right?

A HAAAAA!! So that's where I find the elusive revision number. (Got my 2007 yesterday and couldn't seem to figure out wehere this info was http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/confuse.gif

[lordkosc]

A HAAAAA!! So that's where I find the elusive revision number. (Got my 2007 yesterday and couldn't seem to figure out wehere this info was http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/confuse.gif

hahaha :clap:

[Silversinksam]

hahaha :clap:

It's kind of funny, I was sure I could find this information via software. What made it less obvious is that I had to tape my new LCD to my desk, so seeing that label with the tiny print escaped me.
My cat spends 99% of her time on top of my 21" CRT, she has already tried to get on top of this LCD's top to protest, the thing is, I put the 21" CRT on another desk, hooked up to an external tv box so it would still be warm. Nope, she's annoyed and she will sleep on top of the LCD if it kills her, or destroys the LCD. Tomorrow I will get a permanent solution at the hardware store that is more eye appealing, but until then, it will be taped to my desk. http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/cat.gif

[lordkosc]

It's kind of funny, I was sure I could find this information via software. What made it less obvious is that I had to tape my new LCD to my desk, so seeing that label with the tiny print escaped me.
My cat spends 99% of her time on top of my 21" CRT, she has already tried to get on top of this LCD's top to protest, the thing is, I put the 21" CRT on another desk, hooked up to an external tv box so it would still be warm. Nope, she's annoyed and she will sleep on top of the LCD if it kills her, or destroys the LCD. Tomorrow I will get a permanent solution at the hardware store that is more eye appealing, but until then, it will be taped to my desk. http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/cat.gif

Excellent tape work :p

My cat went to live with my sister after I got my lcds, lol, I don't miss the litter box.

[Silversinksam]

My cat went to live with my sister after I got my lcds, lol, I don't miss the litter box.

I solved the litter box issues years ago http://www.littermaid.com/images_wms/LME9000-smforweb.jpghttp://www.littermaid.com/images_wms/LMT100_sm.jpghttp://www.aircleaners.com/images/2xp.jpg

And each one has a powerful air cleaner/ionizer next to them, at my place when you walk into the door you don't know I have a couple cats, that is until my cat that thinks he's a dog comes after you. Luckily he likes me, but all friends and relative when they come to visit me in Florida, all stay in hotels, this cat is a Godsend :cool:

[dreIU]

Sam, you just got yours the other day and it's only a revision A00? :( Does that mean it has banding issues? Mine will be in tomorrow, and I will be dissapointed if they are still shipping deffective ones.

[d94]

It's kind of funny, I was sure I could find this information via software. What made it less obvious is that I had to tape my new LCD to my desk, so seeing that label with the tiny print escaped me.
My cat spends 99% of her time on top of my 21" CRT, she has already tried to get on top of this LCD's top to protest, the thing is, I put the 21" CRT on another desk, hooked up to an external tv box so it would still be warm. Nope, she's annoyed and she will sleep on top of the LCD if it kills her, or destroys the LCD. Tomorrow I will get a permanent solution at the hardware store that is more eye appealing, but until then, it will be taped to my desk. http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/cat.gif
Sam, thats crazy, so you cat can actually lap ontop of the lcd!?
its only like 2 inches thick LOL.
pic?! :D

[Silversinksam]

Sam, you just got yours the other day and it's only a revision A00? :( Does that mean it has banding issues? Mine will be in tomorrow, and I will be dissapointed if they are still shipping deffective ones.

I've run many tests and so far so good. No apparent banding and no dead pixels.

Sam, thats crazy, so you cat can actually lap on top of the lcd!?
its only like 2 inches thick LOL.
pic?! :D

I didn't say she has actually managed to stay on top of the LCD, I said she has tried a dozen times to get on top of it to sleep. (in fact I had a 19" LCD last year for one hour, I had to get rid of that as well because she was hell bent on getting on top of that as well)
Just moments ago after staring at me for two days straight, she reluctantly went on top of her 21" CRT monitor I moved 3 feet to another desk in my office. What can I say, for years this was her monitor, not mine....:p

PS, for those of you thinking its dumb to place a towel on top of a hot CRT blocking the air escaping, what you don't see is a customized 120mm fan placed inside the monitor, cooling it off. In fact it runs cooler with the towel on top with the fan, than it ran without the towel and no fan. I had a temp probe inside as well when I modified this CRT to make it comfortable for the cat, what a mistake that was, now my LCD is a target ;)

[lordkosc]

Well I got mine dropped off from fedex today, the gradient problem is fixed as far as I can tell. So that is good.

The Rev is A02, its on the back of the monitor as well as the box!

BUT!!!!!!!!! My new 2007FPW Rev A02 has 3 dead pixels! :mad: :mad: :mad:

I've posted on the Dell forums waiting to see what can be done for me.

My 2007FPW Rev A00, with the banding issue has no dead pixels!

It really ticks me off to have one issue fixed and now have another presented to me!

What would you do in my situation? :shrug:

Well Dell is replaceing my replacement 2007FPW Rev A02. The usb on side of the monitor pushes all teh way in and hits the screen from what I can tell, there is also 2 rattleing sound inside the monitor, it was officially damaged in shipping. Thank god I mad the Fedex guy mark it on his check sheet!

So again I wait for my new 2007FPW Rev A02.... Sigh...

[Silversinksam]

So again I wait for my new 2007FPW Rev A02.... Sigh...


I guess it's possible you could receive a Rev00 like I recieved yesterday :shrug:

[lordkosc]

I guess it's possible you could receive a Rev00 like I recieved yesterday :shrug:

I dislike you :temper: .

J/K :beer:

[dreIU]

I guess it's possible you could receive a Rev00 like I recieved yesterday :shrug:

Hmm... I'm glad to hear that you don't have any binding problems with yours. You're using DVI input, right?

[Silversinksam]

Hmm... I'm glad to hear that you don't have any binding problems with yours. You're using DVI input, right?

Yup

[Senater_Cache]

Got my replacement.
D94...didnt know you were up in the DELL threads, whats your sn there?.

my A00 had no dead pixels and minor banding.
my new A02 has ONE dead pixel (currently being hammered by dead pixel buddy)
and im unsure of the banding....check pics below and help me figure it out. Its definately less severe than in A00 though.

funny thing is, my A02 is made in Mexico (I remember ChrisM saying that China was doing the flashing)

D94...was your VGA cable hooked up when you opened the box?

here are pics:

http://cryo-laboratory.com/upload/userfiles/Senater_Cache/rev.jpg
http://cryo-laboratory.com/upload/userfiles/Senater_Cache/vga.jpg
http://cryo-laboratory.com/upload/userfiles/Senater_Cache/panel.jpg
http://cryo-laboratory.com/upload/userfiles/Senater_Cache/grad.jpg
http://cryo-laboratory.com/upload/userfiles/Senater_Cache/green%20scratch.jpg
http://cryo-laboratory.com/upload/userfiles/Senater_Cache/dead.jpg

[d94]

welp, i ended up not driving a half hour to grab it, ill just wait till tomarrow mornin' to have it delivered
i need the time to clean my room so i can have room for a triple display setup

[dreIU]

How exactly does one do banding and dead pixel tests? :o

[Silversinksam]

How exactly does one do banding and dead pixel tests? :o


I used dead pixel buddy

http://www.laptopshowcase.co.uk/downloads.php?id=1



http://www.laptopshowcase.co.uk/images/dpbscreenshot.jpg

Also used Monitor Testor http://www.majorgeeks.com/Monitor_Tester_d386.html

and Nokia Tester (http://freepctech.com/rode/004.shtml)

http://freepctech.com/rode/images/Nokia.jpg


was your VGA cable hooked up when you opened the box?



D94 is in a depression since he is remorseful he didn't go drive to pick up his shiny new monitor, but for what it's worth, My VGA cable was hooked up when I upacked the monitor. :bday:

[dreIU]

thanks Sam! Mine should be delivered sometime this morning; i'll test it when I get home

[d94]

aright.. just got home, got it setup
not a single scratch or dead pixel on it
working great, mines a revision a02 from mexico aswell
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/9786/dscf1464large7en.jpg
now the only question is, what to do with my 2005fpw..
(cant do triple setup yet cuz my 7600gs aint here yet)

so since i want to keep my old monitor since bleeding is practically not there, will dell just re-charge me the original order price of my last monitor? :D

Got my replacement.
D94...didnt know you were up in the DELL threads, whats your sn there?.

its d94 aswell lol

[Senater_Cache]

by bleeding you mean banding?
Im in the exact same situation as you except that my replacement came with the gift of a dead pixel !
If I do not return the old monitor (I am planning on returning it) what would be the charge?

Also...what do you guys think of the gradients in my pics? does that look like normal gradients for a HQ LCD?
http://cryo-laboratory.com/upload/userfiles/Senater_Cache/green%20scratch.jpg

Please help me out...im unsure if this is actually fixed....

[Silversinksam]

by bleeding you mean banding?
Im in the exact same situation as you except that my replacement came with the gift of a dead pixel !
If I do not return the old monitor (I am planning on returning it) what would be the charge?

Also...what do you guys think of the gradients in my pics? does that look like normal gradients for a HQ LCD?
http://cryo-laboratory.com/upload/userfiles/Senater_Cache/green%20scratch.jpg

Please help me out...im unsure if this is actually fixed....



Senater_Cache, Exactly what monitor test is that? I'd like to try that one as well.

[Senater_Cache]

Sure SSS.
Its Gradlin 0.2-f

get it here (http://xtknight.atothosting.com/tools/gradlin-v0.2-fs.exe)

PS the pic is from my A02 from mexico over DVI @ native res

[dreIU]

I just got mine, revision A00 :( I found no dead pixels with all the tests that Sam linked me to. However, I still can't figure out how to do a banding test. :shrug:

Also, the colors look so washed out compared to my 2001fp (both connected DVI, both @ native res). I mean, the text doesn't look as sharp, etc. I looked in display properties and windows recognizes it as a 2007fpw.

[dreIU]

and what does "binding" mean?? I just ran Gradlin 0.2-f, and my screen looks exactly the same as Senater_Cache :shrug:

[Senater_Cache]

dreIU...ist called "banding". and it is a screen inability to display smooth gradients (instead of smooth they are seperated into blocks of color and are disproportionate.)

Use the program I linked above to check your screen.

If you want to see a great example of banding, run the program I linked, then switch your windows desktop to 16-bit (instead of 32) and run the program again. viola...banding.

[dreIU]

Thanks Senater. I am just overwhelmed by the fact that there are no dead pixels. Maybe I'm just going crazy, but now my eyes seemed to have adjusted to the panel of the 2007fpw :shrug: Doesn't the 2001fp ues an 8bit (or 6bit) panel, whereas the 2007fow uses a higher? Maybe that's the difference I'm noticing.

Another not so good part, I can't seem to play NHL 2006 in widescreen resolution :( I'm sure there's a file I have to edit, but it's a pita.

[Hipcrostino]

*cough* get a CRT *cough*

these things look like too much effort from the way your carrying on!! that "scratch" will prolly come off with on spit!

dead pixels i understand.....

i am aware i won't win the CRT's are better war so don't bother, you win :D

and i appologize for any i might have offended, but that is my opinion

[Silversinksam]

*cough* get a CRT *cough*

i am aware i won't win the CRT's are better war so don't bother, you win :D
and i appologize for any i might have offended, but that is my opinion

I was of the exact same mindset until 2 weeks ago, I even contemplating buying a Sony, GDM-FW900 24" CRT, But decided on the 20" LCD instead.


Here's my Gradient test: (Not sure if I have banding or not, doesn't seem to be) :shrug:

[d94]

I was of the exact same mindset until 2 weeks ago, I even contemplating buying a Sony, GDM-FW900 24" CRT, But decided on the 20" LCD instead.


Here's my Gradient test: (Not sure if I have banding or not, doesn't seem to be) :shrug:


looks great to me SSS

any idea on my Q regarding keeping my replacement and not sending my old one back?

[Silversinksam]

looks great to me SSS

any idea on my Q regarding keeping my replacement and not sending my old one back?

Why not just call Dell and ask?

[AtomicMonkey]

Here's my Gradient test: (Not sure if I have banding or not, doesn't seem to be) :shrug:
Maybe I just don't get it but wouldn't this picture (PrintScreen?) look like crap on a crappy monitor and perfect on great monitor no matter what it actually looks like on yours? I.e. it looks fine on my 2407 and 2005 and severely banded on A00 2007.

[Senater_Cache]

*cough* get a CRT *cough*

these things look like too much effort from the way your carrying on!! that "scratch" will prolly come off with on spit!

dead pixels i understand.....

i am aware i won't win the CRT's are better war so don't bother, you win :D

and i appologize for any i might have offended, but that is my opinion
I still believe CRTs are better for gaming and definately for Graphic Design (me)
This Dell LCD is just a toy...I use a Viewsonic p225f for anything else
LINK (http://www.viewsonic.com/support/desktopdisplays/crtmonitors/proseries/p225f/)

[Senater_Cache]

wait...SSS...thata screen grab? LOL
needs to be a picture (via camera) of your screen.
Digitally produced gradient will always be as perfect as the code producing it.

[dreIU]

Maybe I just don't get it but wouldn't this picture (PrintScreen?) look like crap on a crappy monitor and perfect on great monitor no matter what it actually looks like on yours? I.e. it looks fine on my 2407 and 2005 and severely banded on A00 2007.

this man has a point...

[dreIU]

wait...SSS...thata screen grab? LOL
needs to be a picture (via camera) of your screen.
Digitally produced gradient will always be as perfect as the code producing it.

wait, so he takes a pic with his digi cam, then uploads it and we still look at a digital picture and each of our LCD monitors wil interpret it differently, no?

[Silversinksam]

wait...SSS...thata screen grab? LOL
needs to be a picture (via camera) of your screen.
Digitally produced gradient will always be as perfect as the code producing it.


Let's try this:

[d94]

CHACHING!!
http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/3122/dscf1486large9wf.jpg
i can confirm it now, the 2007's ARE brighter than the 2005's

[Senater_Cache]

lol nice dude.
I got 2 WFPs and a 22" CRT.

I dont wanna return the old screen (A00) Banding isnt that bad at all. lol

what would be the charge if I didnt return it?

Let's try this:




Yeah that works (via camera is the only way to show how YOUR screen displays the gradient)
Is that an A00? because it looks like som eslight banding....try zooming in on the very left part of the green and grey a bit.

[n0aH]

CHACHING!!
http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/3122/dscf1486large9wf.jpg
i can confirm it now, the 2007's ARE brighter than the 2005's

omg nice!

[Senater_Cache]

d94...
The yellow instructional paper that came in the replacemt box along the airbill has some info.
They will send an invoice within 5 days of receipt. You have 5 days to return (ship) the old monitor, it says this on the yellow paper. it also says that if not shipped or recieved the invoice will not be credited but will be charged...

On the Del forum I heard someone say their invoie for the 2007wfp was $250 !
This is of course unvalidated.
Thoughts...

[Silversinksam]

d94...
The yellow instructional paper that came in the replacemt box along the airbill has some info.
They will send an invoice within 5 days of receipt. You have 5 days to return (ship) the old monitor, it says this on the yellow paper. it also says that if not shipped or recieved the invoice will not be credited but will be charged...

On the Del forum I heard someone say their invoie for the 2007wfp was $250 !
This is of course unvalidated.
Thoughts...

I read that thread as well, the members there were forming a lynch mob if he didn't return it. If the invoice was in fact $250, I would keep it, as it is neither dishonest nor enethical to do so. But with that said, I would call Dell and make sure there are no strings attached to doing so.

[d94]

I read that thread as well, the members there were forming a lynch mob if he didn't return it. If the invoice was in fact $250, I would keep it, as it is neither dishonest nor enethical to do so. But with that said, I would call Dell and make sure there are no strings attached to doing so.
i will DEFFINETLY do :)

[DDR-PIII]

i currently have 3 2007s sitting here haha, only using one for one, but i have to send one back and the other two are good :)

[dreIU]

can someone tell me how I can be a part of this exchange program with Dell? I would like to have mine swapped for the A02. The more I think of it, the more this banding thing bothers me :o

[DDR-PIII]

just call in the the warrnty line or w.e tell them you ahve one with the banding issue "all others are being recalled" and they will ahve you a new one in two business days :) i had mine in like 36hrs, the fly it to you :) nice and fast

[dreIU]

just call in the the warrnty line or w.e tell them you ahve one with the banding issue "all others are being recalled" and they will ahve you a new one in two business days :) i had mine in like 36hrs, the fly it to you :) nice and fast

beautiful, I will do that first thing monday morning. Thanks!

[Senater_Cache]

i will DEFFINETLY do :)
Report back with yer findings will ya?

BTW...I think the invoice will be whatever it is you payed for the screen from the get-go. The guy said he paid 250 bux...how the heck, I do not know lol

[d94]

Report back with yer findings will ya?

BTW...I think the invoice will be whatever it is you payed for the screen from the get-go. The guy said he paid 250 bux...how the heck, I do not know lol
well, if thats the case ill be paying 340..still good deal imo
ill deffinetly report back tomarrow when i call dell

[dreIU]

well, if thats the case ill be paying 340..still good deal imo
ill deffinetly report back tomarrow when i call dell

Aren't their hours Mon-Fri 9am-9pm Central? I just tried to call them and that's what the prerecorded massage said. Maybe there's a different number to call?

[Richie P]

Good to hear you guys have got good screen's and are getting results from Dell. I'm gonna buy one of these in the next few months, but am considering the Viewsonic alternative as over here in the UK, Dell's are more expensive - £437 on their website! :(

[Senater_Cache]

d94...whats the news? .... also my screen came from a system..so there really isnt a specific price that was given to me.
for the record it ended up costing me $290. No toofitty but still good imo.

[AtomicMonkey]

Hooked up my 2007 A02 (Mexico) replacements. Color banding has been visibly reduced (on par with 2405/2005 and my older Viewsonics) so that is a good thing. Unfortunately one of them has a dead green subpixel which is frankly just as if not more annoying. ****.

[dreIU]

I'm talkiing to this ******* from Dell on the phone trying to exchange my moiitor for an a02, and he says he has no idea what I'm talking about. He won't honor what people say on the Dell tech forums. What do I do??

[AtomicMonkey]

^dreIU

I'm not surprised. Dell reps ARE clueless and dealing with them is a f**** nightmare. The only course of action I can suggest is to PM that dude ChrisM on Dell boards (he posted instructions in one of the forums). That's what I did and my new monitors, with pre-paid return for old ones, just showed up unannounced few days ago. Check this forum for discussion on the banding issue a while back, there should be a direct link to that message if I recall.

EDIT: Link to ChrisM's replacement info:
Dell Message Board (http://forums.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_monitor&message.id=57101)

[Senater_Cache]

yeah SSS..im one of em.
So not return-shipping the original is not unethical? does it cause some kind of legal liability?

BTW I still havent gotten my invoice and its day 5...any idea where to check the invoice balance anyone?

##EDIT... Well slap me silly....my "order" and order number on Dell.com regarding the replacement has an invoice balance that is much less than retail. (< $250)...
Anybody in the know...PLEASE tell me what are th econsequences of not returning the old screen and are there any additional costs involved when they make you pay the invoice after failing to return.

help me plz, time is running out. / what ever happened to d94 and his response...

[Silversinksam]

yeah SSS..im one of em.
So not return-shipping the original is not unethical? does it cause some kind of legal liability?

BTW I still havent gotten my invoice and its day 5...any idea where to check the invoice balance anyone?

##EDIT... Well slap me silly....my "order" and order number on Dell.com regarding the replacement has an invoice balance that is much less than retail. (< $250)...
Anybody in the know...PLEASE tell me what are th econsequences of not returning the old screen and are there any additional costs involved when they make you pay the invoice after failing to return.

help me plz, time is running out. / what ever happened to d94 and his response...


Just call them and ask.

[dreIU]

^dreIU

I'm not surprised. Dell reps ARE clueless and dealing with them is a f**** nightmare. The only course of action I can suggest is to PM that dude ChrisM on Dell boards (he posted instructions in one of the forums). That's what I did and my new monitors, with pre-paid return for old ones, just showed up unannounced few days ago. Check this forum for discussion on the banding issue a while back, there should be a direct link to that message if I recall.

EDIT: Link to ChrisM's replacement info:
Dell Message Board (http://forums.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_monitor&message.id=57101)


Thank you, I juset sent Chirs-M a PM. What do you think the turn around is??

[AtomicMonkey]

It was 3 weeks I think from when I sent ChrisM the PM. I haven't had anything back in terms of confirmation, acknowledgement or anything which was a bit unnerving, but then monitors just showed up so I assume, sending that PM is sufficient to initiate quick exchange w/o going thru bazillion hoops with Dell support.

[EternalX]

what shipping was this sent as?

Fedex or UPS?

I want to call them and see if i cant pick mine up. but since i dont know when its coming or who by, i dont really know who to call.

[AtomicMonkey]

Mine came via DHL

[dreIU]

It was 3 weeks I think from when I sent ChrisM the PM. I haven't had anything back in terms of confirmation, acknowledgement or anything which was a bit unnerving, but then monitors just showed up so I assume, sending that PM is sufficient to initiate quick exchange w/o going thru bazillion hoops with Dell support.


I see... I read elsewhere on the Dell forums that others also didn't get confirmation and one day the monitor just showed up. I can live with it for 3 more weeks, thanks for your help!

[d94]

WHOLLY CRAP GUYS
i just checked on dell.com
they're chargin me $243 :D (i would guess this is COST for them)
IM SOOOO NOT SENDING BACK MY OLD ONE HAHAHA

[dreIU]

WHOLLY CRAP GUYS
i just checked on dell.com
they're chargin me $243 :D (i would guess this is COST for them)
IM SOOOO NOT SENDING BACK MY OLD ONE HAHAHA

Nice.... where exactly does one check this? Is it under account infor (or something along those lines)? I am supposed to get my replacement tomorrow, and if it's just that much, I'm just going to keep it as well.

btw, how are they charging you for this? I hope they don't keep the CC info on file, do they?

[dreIU]

Crap, how the heck are they only charging you $240??

They are charging me more than I oroginally paid, looks like I'm not keeping it.

http://mypage.iu.edu/~apatrule/ohNoes.JPG

[d94]

Crap, how the heck are they only charging you $240??

They are charging me more than I oroginally paid, looks like I'm not keeping it.

http://mypage.iu.edu/~apatrule/ohNoes.JPG
no dude, send back your old one lol and keep the new one..im just keeping my old one too because i cant even tell it has anything wrong with it and looks better than my 2005!

here's my dell
http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/379/untitled6xg2.jpg

[dreIU]

So where in the world did you snatch such a good deal??

[d94]

So where in the world did you snatch such a good deal??
i dunno
i originally paid 340

i tend to have good luck with buying stuff online :D (as long as im not getting scammed LOL)

[dreIU]

i dunno
i originally paid 340

i tend to have good luck with buying stuff online :D (as long as im not getting scammed LOL)


wait hang on :o You bought a 2007fpw, it was rev a00. Dell sent you a rev A02 in exchange. You end up keeping the original a00 and return the a02? So you originally paid 249 for the rev a00?

[d94]

wait hang on :o You bought a 2007fpw, it was rev a00. Dell sent you a rev A02 in exchange. You end up keeping the original a00 and return the a02? So you originally paid 249 for the rev a00?
i paid $340 for a rev a00
the replacement is an a02

im just going to keep both since the a00 is fine..and the a02 is aswell

[Senater_Cache]

haha thats hilarious d94... mine is 243 as well lol.

also, I didnt notice the banding until I was looking for it. and the text is crystal clear with no dead pixels. wohoo.

so d94, how are you going about paying that 243? did you receive a bill (invoice) in the mail already? or will you call and tell them to charge it?
lemme know plz.

[dreIU]

Man, I wish my invoice was for less than $250 :(

[dreIU]

Hmm... here's what my panel shows now. I hope 486.54 dissapears, and the 230 stays :D

http://mypage.iu.edu/~apatrule/wtf.JPG

[dreIU]

Alright... I just went home for lunch and saw that my replacement came in. And what do you know? It's a rev A00. Not only that but I mounted it right next to my original 2007fpw and it is nowhere near as bright plus the banding is WAAAY more nitceable. On the box, it says that it's made in Mexico, and on my original box it says it's made in China.

I am absolutely speechless. How do I even handle this situation??

EDIT: and there is absolutely no "return bill" in the box. I know there is usually this slip, with a sticker that you place outside of the box, then you call 1-800-AIRBORNE and they come pick it up. Absolutely nothing.

[dreIU]

d94, clear some of your inbox, you've maxed your quote :p

[Janus67]

wow, I want to hear how this turns out. I see that the 2007FPW are less than $400 with a deal I got through small business.

[Silversinksam]

d94, clear some of your inbox, you've maxed your quote :p

That's not the only thing my friend d94 has maxed out, he's maxed out his wallet with all the widescreens he has in his room. I'm guessing he will sell that fuzzy orange chair (http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/3122/dscf1486large9wf.jpg) before he parts with any of his LCD's :p

[Richie P]

Need a few comments guys and please be honest here.

I'm slightly concerned about the stated 16ms response time.

Every google link i can find says that it's not a problem and that games are fine etc etc...But from actual users, what is the response time like? Is it noticeable in movies, games? Bear in mind i'll be coming from a 1280x800 laptop screen from which i've never noticed ghosting in any games and watch all my movie and tv without knowing any different. (I have done that ghosting test with the red square and it appears my current panel is disgustingly bad...but het it's a laptop).

Is there a way of finding out what response time the panel i'm using is? Can anyone post the a screenshot of the famous 'I need more socks' test on this monitor?

[Silversinksam]

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/3122/dscf1486large9wf.jpg


Found you a new chair to replace that fuzzy yellow one you have.

http://estore.websitepros.com/stores/1183669/catalog/web_gp15_bigger_masked.gif

Interactive Demo

http://www.iwantgamepod.com/index.html



http://estore.websitepros.com/1183669/Detail.bok?no=3

[d94]

lol..yeah my wallet is drained! :P
but im working on fixing that and deffinetly ridding of the 2005

that chair looks killa...now if i can only find $500 to buy one lol
but first will come conroe i think :D

[Silversinksam]

lol..yeah my wallet is drained! :P
but im working on fixing that and deffinetly ridding of the 2005

that chair looks killa...now if i can only find $500 to buy one lol
but first will come conroe i think :D

I'm willing to bet you will find at least $25.97 in nickels, Dimes and quarters and a half eaten Slim Jim in the cushion of that yellow chair.
:santa:

[d94]

I'm willing to bet you will find at least $25.97 in nickels, Dimes and quarters and a half eaten Slim Jim in the cushion of that yellow chair.
:santa:
LOL, thats was last year :D
lets see...
http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/8776/dscf1610small8pt.jpg
bit over a buck :beer:

i got uber lucky, i sold my 2005 locally for $325 today :)
so, i made almost a hundred bux upgrading my 2nd monitor to a 2007 muhaha

[Richie P]

LOL, thats was last year :D
lets see...
bit over a buck :beer:

i got uber lucky, i sold my 2005 locally for $325 today :)
so, i made almost a hundred bux upgrading my 2nd monitor to a 2007 muhaha

Good job! :D I pity the poor sucker who paid out on it tho...

Anyway...anyone fancy addressing my gaming concerns? Post #81 :)

[exhausted mule]

i've a dell fp19something something.

it has 20ms. and well... ghosting is an understatement.

let's say that anything involving other than black on black you can cleary see ghosting.

to the point where games are tiring and graphical detail is lost.

following the mouse pointer on screen while moving, you get a doubling in size with the ghosting.


so that's with 20 ms. with gaming or video. i wouldn't go higher than 8ms. (opinion. havent tried it)

my next gaming lcd will be a viewsonic at 2ms.

[SuperFarStucker]

Nice score, I can't see how any of that screen real estate is usable being so far away from the center pod. What you really need is a bigger desk and a proper chair.

According to my unscientific tests the 2005fpw lags about 15-20 ms behind a crt. the 2007 uses the same panel, (but as d94 pointed out obviously different backlights). That 20 ms rated is probably more like 30-40 ms latency.

The funny thing is I ping 9-11 ms to my clans gameserver. My flatscreen has more latency than my internet connection. who would have ever thought. I honestly never use my second screen. I should probably sell it, $325 is pretty much what I paid for it.

[Silversinksam]

I was finally talked into getting a replacement for my A00, a buddy came over and he was convinced there was slight banding and when I say slight, I mean slight. I didn't go through that Dell dude(Chris) at the Dell forums
But I have to say Dell rocks.

They Fedex overnighted me a new A02 (Mexico), No dead pixels, No banding at all. Dell even called me on July 3 and on July 4th to make sure I was happy. There was no invoice in the box so when Dell called on July 5th, I told them they can pick up the monitor. 2 Hours later DHL showed up at my door. 2 hours after that, Dell again called and asked again if I was satisfied with the A02.
Maybe they gave me white glove treatment because I ordered it through Dell Small Business. This was my first Dell purchase in a long time, and was treated right.

PS. The new monitor is crisper, and is slightly better than the A00. So if you got a A00, make sure you're 100% satisfied, because Dell seems to be concerned that anyone that got an A00 is unhappy, they will get you a A02 with no fuss nor muss.

[EternalX]

ive been on chrisM's waiting list for more than a month now. Im beginning to think if i ever will get a replacement monitor.

i am past the dell 21 day return window, so I dont know if calling would be a good idea. Ive checked on the dell forums and peoplewho have requested replacements have gotten A00's in return. I dont want to deal with a bunch of hassle even more than I already have.

Hopefully they send me a monitor this year.

[Silversinksam]

ive been on chrisM's waiting list for more than a month now. Im beginning to think if i ever will get a replacement monitor.

i am past the dell 21 day return window, so I dont know if calling would be a good idea. Ive checked on the dell forums and peoplewho have requested replacements have gotten A00's in return. I dont want to deal with a bunch of hassle even more than I already have.

Hopefully they send me a monitor this year.

Pick up the phone and call DELL, you don't need Chris. I completely went around him and they even Fedex overnighted it to me.

[g0dM@n]

ive been on chrisM's waiting list for more than a month now. Im beginning to think if i ever will get a replacement monitor.

i am past the dell 21 day return window, so I dont know if calling would be a good idea. Ive checked on the dell forums and peoplewho have requested replacements have gotten A00's in return. I dont want to deal with a bunch of hassle even more than I already have.

Hopefully they send me a monitor this year.
chrisM?

[Silversinksam]

chrisM?


He's was the Dell moderator in the Dell forums that was helping people get exchanges

[Sucka]

OT: Are you guys changing settings on this panel/ATI CCC for these monitors? I made some slight adjustments, but i'm wondering if i'm getting the clearest picture possible? It looked pretty good out of box, and i'm still fairly new to LCD's.