Dell LCD Measurements

[D-mann]

Hey Guy,

Calling all you guys with 2405FPW and 2005FPW monitors, I need your help.

I'm doing a project right now where I need actual dimensions of these LCDs. I have done some research and all I could find are measurements which includes the LCD stand. What I need are dimensions in inches of the monitors only, height, width and depth. I also need the thickness of the bezel top, sides and bottom and if anyone could provide hi-res photos of the front, side and rear of the LCDs, that would be smashing.

I know this might be asking a lot but I'm desperate for the data and would like to thank you guys in advance.


The D-mann;)

[ajrettke]

2405:
actual viewing area:
W: 20 7/16"
H: 12 13/16"
Diag: (A^2+B^2=C^2) 24 1/8"
depth is kinda hard to tell but a good guestimate is 2.5" without any mount


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bezel is 13/16" all the way around

[D-mann]

Exellent ajrettke, great info and pics. I really like the pic of you holding the tape measure in front of the LCD and it showing 22" wide. Can you take one the same way for the height?

The one with the tape on the top side was good too and the back shot is fantastico!!! Does that just slide/pop out from the stand like that or did you have to unscrew it? 100 thanks for the effort ajrettke.


Okay got good info on the 2405FPW, now I need info on the 2005FPW... everyone? :p

[Alchemy1]

Approximately 17" across and 10 3/4" top to bottom (viewable) for the 2005FPW. I measured with a ruler that is why I say approximately. Sorry no pics it is too early to exert that much energy...lol

[ajrettke]

The height and width you can just get by taking the bezel times 2 (both sides right), and adding the viewing area. If you look close at the pic it's 22" and 1/16th (20 7/16 + 13/16 + 13/16)

Height is:
14 7/16's

As for the mount, if you look at the picture on the back there is a small button below the mount, you take the other mount and put the top prongs into the back of the monitor and then kind of fold it down or let it fall onto the bottom prongs of the mount and it snaps and locks into place.

[D-mann]

Big mahalo Alchemy1, when you mean "viewable" do you mean screen diamentions? I'm looking for over all measutements. Here I illustrate what I need.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/djs61/Others/LCD1aa.jpg

Again TY Alchemy1.

I still need info guys alomst there.

[D-mann]

Good to go ajrettke, I think I can go with your data and start on the 2405FPW part of the project.

TY;)

[ajrettke]

just kind of curious what your project is...you gonna make them recessed into the wall?

[Alchemy1]

My fault I just measured the screen. The total width is 18.5" and the total height is 12.125". Once again this was measured with a ruler and is probably accurate within 1/16" of an inch.

[D-mann]

I'm designing a new desk from scratch. It will be an "L" shape design. I am using a dual 19" monitor setup right now and may want to try a 3 monitor setup with either the 24" or 20" widescreen in the middle and the two 19" on either side. I'm not to sure yet on how this will end up that's why I need the specs on those LCDs. I'm a graphic designer and I also do audio editing so having all the viewable real estate is a must for me.

[Wiggles]

Sounds like an awesome project. I would't know what to do with that much viewable area.

I would think you'd probably end up going with the 24". Screen height will probably be a little more, since the 24" lines up closely with the 20" (4:3, 5:4) monitors. The 20" widescreen lines up closely with the 17's

[Alchemy1]

Sounds like an awesome project. I would't know what to do with that much viewable area.

I would think you'd probably end up going with the 24". Screen height will probably be a little more, since the 24" lines up closely with the 20" (4:3, 5:4) monitors. The 20" widescreen lines up closely with the 17's

Yeah, I love my 20" widescreen, but I wish it was taller and for that reason I kind of wish I would have gotten the 2405, but at about twice the price of the 2005 I can deal with it...lol

[ajrettke]

I recommend going with the 2005 if you using 19" LCD's because the resolutions are much closer. It's anoying if the vertical res isn't close because the mouse will get "stuck" on either the top or bottom when moving from screen to screen. If you can afford it I'd say go with 2 2001fp's and a 2405, I currently run 1 2001 and 2405 and they line up perfectly via res...off by about half an inch in physical height, but the mouse never catches.

[D-mann]

I just finshed a mock up with dual 2405FPW just to see how it would look. Check them out.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/djs61/Others/DualDell24a.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/djs61/Others/DualDell24back.jpg

The detail on the rear I kinda made up but the overall specs are to scale. That is 3' 8" across of screen.

[D-mann]

Okay here is my Dual 19s.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/djs61/Others/Dual19SamsungFronta.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/djs61/Others/Dual19SamsungBacka.jpg

[murdok5]

sign me up for one....

[D-mann]

Can you imagine 4 30" Dell 2 on top and 2 on the bottom;) Or how about a 30" in the middle and 2 24" on each side

[murdok5]

you would have to sit like 10+ft away, unless you want to have a neck/back ache from turning your head allllll the time

[JJ_BPK]

Lucie,, could you splain this to me??

What kind of aspect ratio do you end up with when spreading the image across two screens??

If a single 2405FPW has a ratio of 16:10,,

Do two(2) 2405FPW's extrapolate the image out to a ratio of 32:10???

or do you crop the image down to a 16:5??

TIAV,, Confused??
Jim

[murdok5]

with 2x2405 next to eachother, extended desktop, it would be 32:10. all you do is have 1920x1200 + 1920 more Horz, so 3840x1200 would be total viewable, 1/2 on each.

that help?

[D-mann]

murdok5 is right, your card well recognise two individual monitors and treat them as one being primary and the other being secondary (extended). Ratio will not change between the two monitors.

[JJ_BPK]

murdok5, I understand the ratios, but what about the actual game or video "frame", I know it's a scalable object.. In your example if you go to a 3840x1200 you have lost 1/2 the vertical data??? or compressed the vertical mapping by 1/2, which should look odd?? You either have "fat-*******" or "mini-me" objects??

I have stretched this thread,, into ot,, will do homework,, and start a new thread if needed..

TX
J

[murdok5]

you ahvent lost the data. For example, a picture that is 1920x1200, will display perfectly on one monitor. If that picture is then brought up on BOTH, to full screen, it would be STRETCHED hor, and look distorted. You could then jsut bring up the same picture on each, and view 2 of them.

Now if the picure was 3840x2400 res, and you looked on ONE 2405, then you would only see upper left 25% (say). Now say you hookedup a second 2405. Now you would be able to see the whole top half of the picture.

as for games, think of your monitor as a "window" into the game. The larger the window the more you see, so there is nothing "lost" by adding more resolution. (i wont get into feild of view).

hope that helps some

Mike

[JJ_BPK]

D-mann sorry for steeling your thread,,, OK I am not a gamer but the 'window' effect is what I was questioning,, If I don't have a chunk of my window,, for games,, because of vertical lose,, I could miss a sniper or other nefarious image that would pop me dead..

It's like forced tunnel vission???

So,, are two(2) display run side-by-side,, as in d-manns pic reely viable??? for gamers?? I don't want to be a downer.. I reely like the idea,, it's just that i feel a loss!!

J

[murdok5]

personally i havent seen (or heard) of anyone playing a game with more hor lines than 1200, but who knows. For games, i coulnt play anyhting more than 1920x1200 because i wouldnt want to have a split screen.

As D-MANN is a graphic designer, which simply means MORE IS BETTER in terms of res to work with. also, you can have diff apps open on each to help multitask.

i would simple suggest borrowing anohter monitor and trying it....its fun and you may want to buy a second.

i would also suggest ultramon for anyone useing dual displays...VERY cool abilities.

[ajrettke]

When you game, 99% of the time one monitor is used for gaming. The other stays up with windows desktop with whatever was on there (and will add whatever AIM or whatever pops up) while you game.

For example, I run a 2001 and 2405...when I launch CS my 2405 is my primary and changes to displaying only CS, the 2001 continues to display windows and trillian and desktop icons (all of which are normaly on that monitor) and if I get a AIM or winamp changes songs I can see them change and pop up etc, all while CS is running on the other monitor.

to play a game on 2 monitors and have the image spanned is annoying to implement and game dependant....flight sims are the only games which I believe make this work.

[D-mann]

Dual displays are historically terrible for gaming although like ajrettke mentioned their are a few game that can play on multi-screens.

Most game designer like FPS have you in the bottom middle of the screen so if you played using two monitors your hindered by the break between the two screens... not fun at all.

Here are some samples of three display surround gaming,
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/djs61/Others/l_ut2003_9a.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/djs61/Others/l_ut2003_5a.jpg

The only and best way to experience surround gaming would be with three displays and having the middle one your primary but their is more to it than that.

Check some of these site fore more info on multi-screen and multi-screen gaming;
http://mhg.planetquake.gamespy.com/
http://www.realtimesoft.com/

And here is a list from Matrox on games that will play on surround gaming using their cards;
http://www.matrox.com/mga/3d_gaming/surrgame.cfm

Hope this helps you. :)

[murdok5]

ajrettke: does you card have 2x DVI that you use? Cause i have to have seperate radeon7500 to run my PSOne lcds, so that it doesnt "shutoff" when i launch a 3d app. Mabe this is a feature with newer cards, im not sure.

[ajrettke]

yeah my 7800 and also my old 6800 had dual DVI and worked the same way that my old 2 17" CRT's would act

[murdok5]

mine has dvi and analog. I had 2 monitors, but no settings or anyhting would let me keep that secondary one on

[D-mann]

Try this app it will allow to setup dual displays and a lot more.

UltraMon is a utility for multi-monitor systems, designed to increase productivity and unlock the full potential of multiple monitors.

http://www.realtimesoft.com/ultramon/

HTH