Everybody read this ; last informal warning

[macklin01]

I am sick and tired of the flames and foul language that I have seen in this section. Let me give you a reminder of some of our rules:

1. Absolutely NO personal attacks will be tolerated, no exceptions!

Posts and threads that are solely for the sake of being confrontational are included. Flamebaiting is included. Your posts should display mutual respect and should be rational. Warmongering is included. Thumping your chest and demanding explanations here and defenses there is warmongering.

2. No hard language is permitted. If you feel you absolutely must swear the use of Stars (*) can convey your feeling with out endangering your place in our forums. Saying "S***!" is allowed. Saying "YOU S*** is never allowed, ever!!

Trying to avoid the swear filter is included. If you see *'s inserted in your post after you're done, it means that you've broken the rule. You'd be best to go back and revise your post with tasteful language at that point.

Rememer that the ocforums are to be a G-rated forums.

By clicking the Agree button, you warrant that you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-orientated, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws.

I suggest you all do some reading here:

http://www.ocforums.com/announcement.php?s=&forumid=66

and here:

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=115345

I have been lenient in the past few weeks. I have tried to maintain a presence and to lead by example and remind when necessary when the rules have been breached. Some have shown improvement, and I thank those who have take the time and shown the effort. Others have not, and this thread is especially intended for those.

I am no longer going to be lenient. Any transgression of the rules will be treated with a formal warning, 3-day vacation, or perma-ban as the case may necessiate. If, when posting, you are unsure as to whether your post may violate the rules, it means it probably will.

Consider this the last informal warning to everyone. -- macklin01

[macklin01]

bump. I want to make sure everybody understands this. -- Paul

[rogerdugans]

Another BUMP to help make sure this is visible.

[Cerberus2k7]

Why don't you sticky this?

[Gautam]

Excellent move, Macklin01. The conduct seen in this section lately has been quite disappointing.

You've always been an outstanding member, nice to see you as a mod. Keep up the good work! :thup:

[stan03]

Originally posted by Cerberus2k7
Why don't you sticky this?

half the people don't notice/read stickys:(


also bump:)

[DDR-PIII]

this is still atop the forum, but i'm post anyways, i have also seen alotta swearing etc... i do it my self ;), just not in these forums respectively :), so i hope everyone follows the rules/guidlines

-DDR

[rogerdugans]

Keeping this up TOP.

Please read and comply. :)

[Oni]

Originally posted by Cerberus2k7
Why don't you sticky this?

'cause nobody ever reads the stickies.

http://24.36.38.95/macros/bump.jpg

[Splinter]

Bump, bump, bump, bump,.........bump, bump!

[Sentential]

Bump! (for the sake of forgetful pplz)

[dguy6789]

Bump. I agree 100%

[tom10167]

Why not sticky it? Because everything stated in the original post is just taken from the first thread in every forum. ;)

[rogerdugans]

More bumpage- only 150 some views so far and we have a LOT more members than that. ;)

[jstutman]

should just change the topic to something real good that would get Everyones attention :)

bump the bump bump

[Malpine Walis]

OK, it is not just this forum that I have been running into problematic posts. So here is the skinny.

Look at the top of every forum. You see that link to our forum policies (http://www.ocforums.com/announcement.php?s=&forumid=69)? Care to guess where you go when you click on it? You can click on the link in this post if you don't want to go looking for it.



2. No hard language is permitted. If you feel you absolutely must swear the use of Stars (*) can convey your feeling with out endangering your place in our forums. Saying "S***!" is allowed. Saying "YOU S*** is never allowed, ever!!



Swearing does not raise you public image. It does not make you cool. It is not verbal “spice” that enhances you communication skills. It just marks you as someone who swears a lot.

To that end, we have a swear filter in place. It works just fine and keeps the worst of it off of our forums. If you really feel that you must swear, please just type the word. Quire frankly, we are a fairly imaginative lot and as long as you get your grammar sort of close to correct, we can all figure out whether you had a noun or a verb in mind and we can supply a fair equivalent in our own heads.

Also, please do not intentionally bypass the swear filter. If a word is in the filter it is in there for a reason. Adding a blank space or changing the spelling will get past the filter but then the whole place know that you felt the need to intentionally type your way around the filter. Think about that for a second. You had to go out of your way to do it. We know you did and it is a violation of our rules.



7. This forum has a policy of tolerance and inclusion. Prejudicial language and behavior is absolutely forbidden and may result in loss of posting privileges. Racial, Sexist or religious slights of any kind are absolutely not tolerated, nor are slights against other groups based on sexual orientation, age, class, IQ, ethnicity or similar features.



Please take special note of this one also. These forums can be read by anyone around the world. Twice yesterday I had to PM members who had dropped derogatory terms into their posts. The long and the short of it is that none of us knows who may read our posts so we all need to show a certain level of respect for all the people who use our forums.

[mdcomp]

Originally posted by rogerdugans
More bumpage- only 150 some views so far and we have a LOT more members than that. ;)

Yes, thats true. I have seen much of this so called bad behavior going on first hand. Its ridiculous, we are all mature here, lets not make the mods work any harder than they already have to work. Lets keep our discussion civil. No personal attacks or flamebaiting. Thanks.

BUMP!

Matt

[JoT]

Originally posted by tom10167
Why not sticky it? Because everything stated in the original post is just taken from the first thread in every forum. ;)

As a couple others have said, many people don't notice or read stickies. I know I didn't use to until a few months ago.

Bump, people still need to read this.

[@md0Cer]

I have not really noticed much, I dont venture into this section much, but just the one thread I started to post in, I did notice some of this behavior. Why can't we all just get along like mature people? Unless alot of people here are not mature yet, but I doubt that. Ok...maybe I should stop rambling nonsense and get to the point of this post, BUMP! Oh, and some nice 5 stars for it too :D

[Cerberus2k7]

late night bump :D

Ooh, send a global PM to people. :D

[Tango57]

Originally posted by stan03


half the people don't notice/read stickys:(


also bump:)

i like reading the stickys. they're very helpful especially the guides. anyhow, i agree. there should be no tolerance for that kind of vulgar or instigative type of dialogue.

ttt

[I.M.O.G.]

BUMP

It's only been 30 minutes since the last post, but I don't think the bumping of this thread can get too frequent given the recent nature of this forum.

Great thread Paul, Thank you.

[TUK101]

LOL, I love this thread. I dont visit the video/sound section of the forums nearly as much as I used to because it seems to have turned into a place to either start or jump into an argument. It is not the informative place that it used to be. Dont get me wrong, there is still plenty of information to be had here, but you have to do an awful lot of weeding to get to it. Bump for the thread, its one of the best that I have read on this section in quite awhile. ;)

[Breadfan]

I didn't realize some of the problems in here until some examples were brought to my attention. Paul, great thread.

I just want to bump it, and remind people to read the rules and abide by them.

Oh, and I'll be sure to prowl around here upon each visit to help keep things clean. So reread the rules twice if you have too... :)

[Voodoo Rufus]

I'm glad to see this thread appear. People trying to calm things by example hasn't seemed to work so well lately, and the types of threads commonly seen here as of late the past few months goes so far as to bring the rest of the forum to a lower level. It pushes people away when they see the type of things happening here.

Flaming never solves anything. It can only go to hurt people, and the poster's reputation, if any. Let us return this forum to the standards shown in other sections of this place.

[JigPu]

Bump-zilla!

Remember, this is a G-Rated forum. If you wouldn't tell your mom how the R420 (or NV40) is going to pwnz0rs with the language you use, tone it back :)

Also remember that everybody here is human. We're all subject to errors, bias, and misinterpretation. Attack the issue (preferably with links to back yourself up), not the person who got the issue "wrong".

JigPu

[funnyperson1]

This thread should be renamed Nvidia Exec cheated on college final exam or Ti4200 voted worst video card ever.

Then you would get some hits :p.

[unreal]

i havent seen to much foul language but if i see it ill remind them, and i agree, sometimes people should review the rules every now and then.

[Steven4563]

BUMP

and yes people should understand the rules and follow them :D

[Valk]

Originally posted by funnyperson1
This thread should be renamed Nvidia Exec cheated on college final exam or Ti4200 voted worst video card ever.

Then you would get some hits :p.

Ha ha. you would get a lot of hits from scandalous readers ;)
It will be nice to see these parts conducted a little more civily. I know i come here for the knowllege base of this forum. people bickering and flaming all over the place kind of works against the delivery of that knowllege.

I want the guts, not the passionate opinions :)

so yea. BUMP!

[baqai]

Originally posted by funnyperson1
This thread should be renamed Nvidia Exec cheated on college final exam or Ti4200 voted worst video card ever.

Then you would get some hits :p.

LOL and i am sure thread would be the fastest thread on this forum than :p

*BUMP for a good cause*

[rogerdugans]

This thread made it to the third page when I did a search for all new posts this morning- time to move it back up. :)

One of the things I have always liked the MOST about these forums is the fact that while disagreements happen often, people can usually "agree to disagree" even if they can't find conclusive proof on a given topic.

Flaming and personal attacks are NOT the conclusive proof that changes peoples minds. ;)

[germanjulian]

I am embarresed to ask but what you do guys mean by BUMP?

[FarEast]

Bump? Well it means to move it to the top for the page again. ;)

[FarEast]

You see how it works?

But I would have to say that I read a post here the other day and I was shocked at the behaviour of one of the members and I'm glad this has been brought up.

We have alot of newcomers here recently and if they see that kind of behaviour or language from long term memebers then we can't really complain when they start mimicking.

The reason why I and alot of others come her is because of the house rules... I like not having to read through pages of profanity just to get an idea of the problem or situation why do alot of you feel the urge to swear? You can get your point across equally well without them.

[I.M.O.G.]

bump

[glock19owner]

*bump before taking off*

[mdcomp]

Its gotten a bit better already I think.

BUMP

Matt

[eobard]

Originally posted by macklin01

I have been lenient in the past few weeks.

I am no longer going to be lenient.
BUMP from the man who hasn't been lenient, won't be lenient, and is now going to rain on as many video-swear-attack-fest parades as he already rains on cooling-swear-attack-fest parades.

[eobard]

...and now, 4 minutes later, my first PM.

[I.M.O.G.]

4 minutes?

Perhaps you should have warmed up and stretched first, just imagine how bad it would be if you pull a knuckle tendon or hyperextend an index finger at the keyboard - you could be out for days, maybe weeks even! :eh?:

I mean, just look at cats, the first thing they do before springing into action is take a good stretch... You should follow their lead. ;)

[Voodoo Rufus]

That sure didn't take long. Stretching definitely helps. Feels good too. :)

The ball is picking up speed fast now......gravity taking over.

[eobard]

Originally posted by IMOG

I mean, just look at cats, the first thing they do before springing into action is take a good stretch...
Who do you think taught them? :D

[rassler]

I hope noobs can bump too! :D

[JoT]

This definately should be above that "nvidia is cheating again" crap. BUMP!

[Valk]

God, you really should just sticky this. i cant speak for the bulk of the forums, but the stickies DO stand out. you will need to change it to something a little more.. muscular though "Read this or you DIE!"

you know.. really put that fear of the gods of leetness in em ^^;;
*bump*

[macklin01]

LOL, I might have to consider that. I'll let it bump around for awhile longer and then maybe decide from there.

Thank you to all you have signed on and voiced support. -- Paul

[JoT]

One of the problems I see with stickying anything is that even if you make the title all caps, it doesn't stand out much from the other stickies, and since there are already quite a few, I think that another would be noticed even less.

Eh, that's just my thoughts on it, though.

[Valk]

what happened over in cooling that forced the stickies into a seperate forum?
Im sure you could find a way to put this at the very top of the list too, kind of like the rules. of course. i guess we wouldnt be here if people were actully reading that thread ^^;;

[JoT]

Actually, the rules are in an announcement. The Cooling stickies are in an entirely different forum of their own, because there were sooooooo many.

[Ducatti]

Glad to see rules are/going to be enforced... great forum, as long as people don't ruin it...


BUMP!!!!:o

[9mmCensor]

Originally posted by JoT
Actually, the rules are in an announcement. The Cooling stickies are in an entirely different forum of their own, because there were sooooooo many.

something that could be done in the Games section (hint hint...)

ooo.... lookie a bumpity

So did you here about the ATI Execs infedelity? (interest peaker)

[I.M.O.G.]

The basis of the anti-sticky thing is the assumption that most people looking through the forum are either looking for a thread to answer questions in so they overlook the stickies, or they are conditioned to being used to seeing the stickies, and automatically, (almost subconciously) look to the first thread below them.

I know coming here a few times every day, I don't check out the stickies every time I enter the forum... I couldn't tell you the name of any more than maybe even 2 stickies on the entire forum, and there are probably close to 30 current ones.

Bumping also has the advantage of being a tangible display of member constitution - it shows that the thread holds current importance to our forum values, and members are actively engaged in confronting the issue.

NTM, bumping is more fun, just watch...

Bump

Weeeee! :bday: :beer: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/images/smilies/wave.gif http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/images/smilies/hug.gif

[@md0Cer]

BUMP!

Perhaps renaming the title to something like x600XT owned by fx5200! Come see benchies!

That would bring some people in :D I love threads like this where all you do is bump. It gives me an excuse to ramble on and on and on and on and on and on and on like I am doing now.....

[eobard]

Originally posted by @md0Cer
BUMP!

Perhaps renaming the title to something like x600XT owned by fx5200! Come see benchies!

That would bring some people in :D I love threads like this where all you do is bump. It gives me an excuse to ramble on and on and on and on and on and on and on like I am doing now.....
Which is completely against the point. The point is to let people know the rules will be strictly enforced. Spamming, which is against the rules, contradicts this. The only reason it's being bumped is to let all those who don't read the stickies regularly see it.

[eobard]

Originally posted by Valk
what happened over in cooling that forced the stickies into a seperate forum?
They threatened to dislodge new posts to the second page, so a seperate cooling sticky section was made. I recently went back over the stickies in H2O, I've found most of them are still worthy of being stuck. If anyone has something they want to add to those (or thinks that some are no longer relavent) you all know where my PM box is.

[/detour]

[Ducatti]

BUMP!!!

The cooling threads are rather lengthy...

[9mmCensor]

Originally posted by IMOG
I couldn't tell you the name of any more than maybe even 2 stickies on the entire forum, and there are probably close to 30 current ones.


There are ~184 stickies, which does NOT include GD or the Classifieds section, and very few of them, I would wager, read frequently.

(Yes I just counted)

[Droban]

im not sure what bump means, but i say bump

This forum is AMAZING, and only recently has it been tarnished because of this section. I think its about time everyone remembers what this is here for, and that is to help others and get help for yourself!

[RubiX³]

Yeah! Bump that sh....ahem - thread!

[DaWiper]

Bump!!!

The easiest way to solve the problem with the current "heated" debates in this part of the forum is to tell nvidia and ati to start making identical cards with the same specs...
Hmmm... People would then start to argue about which company has the best logo or something like that.

[@md0Cer]

Originally posted by eobard

Which is completely against the point. The point is to let people know the rules will be strictly enforced. Spamming, which is against the rules, contradicts this. The only reason it's being bumped is to let all those who don't read the stickies regularly see it.

yep...bumping is kinda the same as spamming....moving a thread rapidly to the top or flooding useless info into a thread and/or multiple threads. That is how I define it.


Does it matter what my post does in an already pretty much useless thread?

useless in terms of many of the posts(not the origional), some are pretty good, most are bumps and contribute nothing at all except for the bumping of the thread. What does it matter whether I post


bump

or

bump blah blah balh blah blah blah

I am not arguing here, just stating my opinion. I have nothing more to add, and there is no nead to turn this thread into anything else other than its origional topic or the bumps so I have said what I have to say.

EDIT: now that I think of it, I guess you are right, it was an attempt at some slight humor oh how I sometimes ramble on and on and some of the simplest things. Oh well. I cannot fix the past, but now I know. Thanks for your opinion.

Cheers!
-0cer
:cool:

[rogerdugans]

My last formal BUMP in this thread. :)
730 views and climbing.

[JoT]

I'm going to toss another BUMP into this thread.

[Cerberus2k7]

Originally posted by rogerdugans
My last formal BUMP in this thread. :)
730 views and climbing.

But that doesn't mean 730 differient views. :( I know i've looked at this thread at least 5-6 times and I know others have done the same. So that 730 is probably more like 490

[MrMarbles]

At what point do you think this thread turned in to spam? Ironic, dont you think, considering this thread was originally intended to get people follow the rules?

[bizhar]

bump

[DaWiper]

Well, the people who have not read this thread will sooner or later experience macklin01's wrath...
"apocalyptic scenes passes before my eyes" :)

second BUMP!
(macklin01, please tell us when to stop bumping the thread)

[macklin01]

Hmm, I think everybody's given it a good look by now ... so we'll give it until midnight tonight, Pacific time. ;) -- Paul

[@md0Cer]

Originally posted by macklin01
Hmm, I think everybody's given it a good look by now ... so we'll give it until midnight tonight, Pacific time. ;) -- Paul

Good Idea. I personnally have not noticed any flames or un-apropriet rule breaking things in this section at all. Not just this section, the whole forum actually.

Also, a nice big THANK YOU!!!! to all who are now or always have been following the rules.

Cheers, and play nice!
-0cer
:cool:

[Wicked Klown]

bump just cause it isn't at the top right now.

[Steven4563]

one last

BUMP!!!! :D:D

[9mmCensor]

The idea of bumping is to move it up in the forum, to make it more visable. Bumping it only 8 minutes after the previous one isn't really making it that much more visible, especially if the post has not imput other than bumping the thread.
(read: that practically equates to spam)
Just my opinion though.

[stan03]

Originally posted by 9mmCensor
The idea of bumping is to move it up in the forum, to make it more visable. Bumping it only 8 minutes after the previous one isn't really making it that much more visible, especially if the post has not imput other than bumping the thread.
(read: that practically equates to spam)
Just my opinion though.

im going to have to agree... and its been about 3 hours :D

[I.M.O.G.]

Judging by a post I just read in this section, it would seem that some people still haven't gotten the point of this thread. There are still those who haven't read this that need to.

[macklin01]

Please feel free to report such posts when you see them. ;) -- Paul

[harryinny3]

But just to get this clear, It seems that if you disagree with a post and do it in a nice manner you still Get a warning or something to that effect. Is it alright to dissagree, or do we have to wear blinders and Blindly agree with a post? No matter how false or missleading it may be?

I just dont want to get banned for something i Dont intentionally intend to do. Ive been afraid to even say hi since a couple weeks ago.

good read though.

Harry

[macklin01]

No, if you're polite, you likely won't get a warning. If you respond with "you don't belong here, you're being a jerk, ...," it's another story. One's a case of politely stating your opinion and preferably linking to relevant policies, and is respectful. The other is an act of escalation, even if well-intentioned. -- Paul

[harryinny3]

Thanks for clearing that up Paul

Harry

[macklin01]

Thanks. And please let me add that polite, respectful help is not only tolerated, but greatly appreciated! Some good examples of this sort of behavior can often been seen in the posts by the seniors.

Take care. -- Paul

[tom10167]

Originally posted by IMOG
Judging by a post I just read in this section, it would seem that some people still haven't gotten the point of this thread. There are still those who haven't read this that need to.

Agreed, the fact that we even need a thread like this one floating around is a little bit sad really.

Can't we all just get along? :D *Hugs monitor*

[Voodoo Rufus]

Just looking at a few of the new threads, it looks considerably better already to me. The test will be long term though, esp. when the new ATI cards come out.

[harryinny3]

BUMP


I hope Thats a general statement LOL Because Not all ATI fans are Bad.

Harry

[Voodoo Rufus]

I was just thinking there could be some lively discussions in the next week if the cards show. Not a bad thing. That's all I meant.

[I.M.O.G.]

Originally posted by macklin01
Please feel free to report such posts when you see them. ;) -- Paul

Your in the on deck circle Paul, Eobard was the lead-off. ;) You'll get your at bat though, slugger.


I hope Thats a general statement LOL Because Not all ATI fans are Bad.

Harry

Release time of a new video card is invariably a time of higher tension around the video forum, when all the fanboys come out to frolic - that is all he meant. I know that Voodoo Rufus meant this regardless of creed or denomination. ;) (it wasn't a statement about ATI or Nvidia)

[Prot]

I think it was a good idea to restate the rules that are already in place because obviously people have not been following them.

On a similar note, is it just me being old fashioned or whatever but does it seem like some avatars aren't very wholesome. What I mean is, I was on another forum a while ago and there were some scantily clad avatars that don't fit the G Rating.

[harryinny3]

LOL Mines fine, She is a race car driver and fully clothed. And its not see through. Its a formal dress.

Harry

[Hurk]

I'll get in here.

I agree with the post and haven't posted much because of it. I just don't care to read through all the complaining and bashing people are doing.

[Ducatti]

After re-reading this thread once or twice, and then forum surfing.. It's all about passion.. I'm in the customer service world, and learning decorum with an obtuse customer who is obviously wrong (at least in my eyes) is critical to my companies success. The same applies here.. we all have opinions, I like AMD CPU's, you may not. We can have a lively adult exchange of opinions, within forum guidlines, and still get our feelings known. But sometimes I can see people getting passionate about it.. or at least mad.. but we all have to remember what they say about opinions...

[capmuffin]

Sounds understandable....easy to follow..............^^^BUMPETY BUMPETY BUMP

[stratcatprowlin]

I think this is a perfect time for this thread because there were at least three threads that got way outta hand in the last 2 weeks.

The more people that see this the better!

I know I learned alot about what not to say.

[TruckyJ]

Your right stratcatprowlin. Things have gotten pretty ugly as of late. I'm not quite sure why, but its true.

[Th0r]

It happens, hardcore fans... just as bad as football holigans *sighs*

[stratcatprowlin]

Fan boys are one thing but lets not forget about blatant disrespect to others in general.

There was alot of that as well.

[Black_Paladin]

I just saw this thread because of all the bumpage going on and I must say that I am very surprised.

First of all, I have to say that I haven't been visiting this forum frequently lately so I probably don't know some things that most of you do. Every time I visit however, I always run into very friendly, helpful and humorous people. I love this forum (it's my favorite forum) mostly because I like the people hanging around here. Now, I am not a member of too many forums but I have been around a few and my opinion is that we have the nicest and the politest people around here.

This thread as a result comes to me as a big surprise. I can assure you that I am against flaming and flame-baiting as much as you guys but I didn't think that there was much of this going on around here.

We always have a whole bunch of X company vs. Y company discussions here (*sigh* yeah, I know it's almost always nVidia vs. ATI around here and this is really getting old and boring as it goes on and even the old timers and passionate people started to drop out of threads that head in that direction) but while these arguments usually result in people agreeing to disagree (or sometimes people just disagreeing on everything period), I rarely run into threads that turn into pure flame fests.

Every once in a while, someone will get frustrated trying to get his point across and use a swear word or two but these words are rarely (if ever) directed at a person posting in that thread.

I don't know. I am sure you guys have a point here otherwise I think you wouldn't spend all this effort bumping up this thread but I just wanted to put in my 2 cents as well and say that I love this forum and I think that it is better than most forums (if not all) that I have run into, at least in terms of being friendly and helpful.

Flaming usually isn't the only problem with forums either. There are some forums on the web where most members consider themselves elite and therefore above the rest and either humiliate newcomers to try to prove their superiority or just make fun of them for their amusement. In these kind of environments, flaming would usually be a blessing if it came with some help because the members that consider themselves elite provide no help at all.

Fortunately, I have not seen any kind of this behaviour I talked above here but then again, I have not run into many threads here that turn into flame fests period. :)

[Mr.Guvernment]

bump!!!

[Droban]

well the debate between ATi and nVidia is so heated because basically the two companies are on par with each other for this next round. ATi has a very fast card coming out, and nVidia has impressed many people with its feature enriched top card as well. both of these companies have been on top, and now its for the most part going to be a decision based upon budget. nonetheless, GREAT for smart consumers. great for fanboys too i guess cuz you cant really go wrong this round.

kinda rambling, but when two companies like this are very close, fanboys get angry and find more ways to argue their company is better since its not as clear.



its different than the Intel versus AMD dispute, because intel users are happy with the higher speeds for multitask, editing, and gaming, and AMD users are happy for value, efficiency, and gaming.

[I.M.O.G.]

Intel isn't faster for gaming and editting though... I might give them multitasking though, due to HT.

[eobard]

Let me be clear on something: There is no validating that will be accepted. In otherwords, there is no "Well I dumped all over product X and those who use/prefer it but it's acceptable because..." When that gets said, I stop reading at "Well I dumped all over product X and those who use/prefer it" and then the person who posted it gets warned or banned.

[Cerberus2k7]

Originally posted by IMOG
Intel isn't faster for gaming and editting though... I might give them multitasking though, due to HT.

I thought Intels were better for anything that requires complex algorithms

[Malpine Walis]

Guys,

The purpose of this thread is not to rehash the processor wars or the graphics card wars. The bumpage is good but there are other places on the forums for those discussions.

[NO LIFE]

<_<

>_>

BUMP!!! :)

[Cerberus2k7]

*slaps* :D

[Dubbin1]

WOW that green is burning me eyes :)

[Cjwinnit]

Why not simply call the thread "READ OR DIE" or, alternatively, "OMG NEW RADEON 99900Billion!1one" ?

[TruckyJ]

Originally posted by Cjwinnit
Why not simply call the thread "READ OR DIE" or, alternatively, "OMG NEW RADEON 99900Billion!1one" ?

Because its thread spamming and its against forum policy and in turn against what this thread is trying to accomplish.

[Cjwinnit]

Originally posted by TruckyJ
Because its thread spamming and its against forum policy and in turn against what this thread is trying to accomplish.

I was half-kidding, it's 4am here. I should sleep....

[stratcatprowlin]

Im gonna bump this to the top again so some people remember not to insult other people with stupid remarks or straight up laugh at someones problem.

[insecure^]

Im just gonna bumb because of respect for rules. :D

[TruckyJ]

BUMP! :D

[jrbob]

Back to the top

[eobard]

STUCK. No more need to bump.

[Mr.Guvernment]

^^ good job :)

[9mmCensor]

Originally posted by eobard
STUCK. No more need to bump.

About time.

[Voodoo Rufus]

Need to get the point across first, and see how many people would actually post that they read it. If it was unstuck much longer I would've bumped it for my first time.

[Cerberus2k7]

Told you to do it earlier :p

[gt24]

I haven't been to the forums for a while and I am not commonly in the Video section anyways. However, I did find this thread a welcome addition (although, it was dancing into a whole lot of different areas at times), and I have my two cents to add...

What most people seem to be forgetting is the purpose of this forums, which is for computer users to ask for assistance and to help others. For a long time, I had a Voodoo 3 in my main rig until fall 2002, and then I had an Nvidia Geforce 3 clear up till Black Friday 2003. If I needed help, I would expect somebody who knows the information to help me out, even though I may not be running a video card from one of the two main manufacturers. In turn, I would try my best to help somebody out even though I personally do not prefer that company. This isn't a fight about what company is the best, it is computer users helping each other out, that point has to be remembered.

While discussions about what component is the best can and will come up from time to time, those discussions should be about the facts. Once again, it is computer users helping each other out, not people trying to establish leet pride in what they bought and to put down other people who didn't buy their specific components. For one reason or another I may have bought my components, such as the ATI card I now have I run only because of Black Friday. Comparison discussions should exist to help me know about the advantages one card has over another as well as the weaknesses, so that I can purhcase an appropriate card.

Overall, the goal is for computer users to help out fellow users. Trying to be superior to others and to put down inferior users should never be a goal here. Also, putting down something that you hate should not be a goal either.

I always expect the members of this forum to be helpful to me and I will do my very best to be helpful back. As long as the main reason as to why we are all here is remembered, then everybody should have an awesome time here.

Eitherways, my two cents is over. Just wanted to let everybody know what I thought on this issue...

[squeakygeek]

half the people don't notice/read stickys:(


also bump:)

could make it an announcement?

[Malpine Walis]

could make it an announcement?



We could but then there would be two announcements that say the same thing. One clean and the other spammed to the point that all our real discussion in here is hiding in the static.

[tainice]

'cause nobody ever reads the stickies.

http://24.36.38.95/macros/bump.jpg


Not true... I read them "First" because they are so helpful and useful
;)

[MyPCAlexi]

i dont know. the argument that "anyone can read this website" is kinda flaky to say the least. if a two year old googles "certain" pictures, that means the parent should be monitoring the kid, not that google is doing a terrible thing. as for being innapropriate, i think that sometimes its enforced too strictly in some parts and not enough in others. when it goes into the grey and is more opinion than anything, i often see this forum fall into the "everyone else leans towards idea A, so idea B is innapropriate". whenever i posted a "innapropriate" thread i dont feel it is innapropriate. sometimes i cross the line without even realizing it i guess. heh most of the time it gets edited and i dont even know about it :P. i mean yes, this is for techies to discuss technology but when things get in the grey area (mainly the off topic section) i feel that the "innapropriate" tag gets placed where people just have differing opinions not an objection to the appropriateness. i get pushed in the situation where people dont want to speak up, but they agree with what i have to say. youre right that no one reads the stickies but not many people realize how this affects how we post. i guess i will prolly get flamed for being the punk that goes up against the guys that "work so hard to keep this place working" but i must give my honest opinion. it is a decent place to post but its far from perfect. "giving ultimatims is no way to manage a relationship" *quote from dr. ruth* :D
but i do understand your frustration on the flaming thing. name-calling is stupid and should be done away with.

[Celeron_Phreak]

bumpity bump bump bump

I think maybe changing the title of the thread, and changing it every week to something everyone will want to read. That way they don't know what's in it until they click on it. After opening the thread and seeing it's the same "boring" one time and again, maybe they'll get tired of seeing it and just read it. Then they'll think over what they're doing wrong.

[Sterculus]

The problem with using titles that are misleading to draw people into the thread is that once they realized that this thread wasn't really about whatever the draw title was they would just leave. Too bad you can't somehow make people read the stickies before they are allowed to post in a section :/
No one has posted in this for over a month, I suppose since it became a sticky :(

[Celeron_Phreak]

How about a pop-up? Everytime someone clicks on Reply or Start New Tread, a popup comes up with the rules?

[squeakygeek]

How about a pop-up? Everytime someone clicks on Reply or Start New Tread, a popup comes up with the rules?

uh no

[macklin01]

Well, a pop-up would be cool, but the idea around here is that the members are responsible for knowing the rules and having read the stickies. Accordingly, if somebody has broken the rules in a sticky, they're accountable whether they have read it or not.

That having been said, this thread was created during a particularly nasty time in this subforum. Flame wars and such were occurring much more than they should have, and it became necessary to provide a very bold warning and request for better practices by all. Lately, things, have been much better. So, there's really no need for such a pop-up window. But keeping this as a sticky provides a good reminder to look through from time to time. :)

Thanks! -- Paul

[Celeron_Phreak]

Hehe. Glad to hear things are getting back to normal again.

[andyl33t]

there is a reason for rules. Go by them :)

[squeakygeek]

Well, a pop-up would be cool

A popup would definately not be cool.

[Malpine Walis]

A pop up would be pointless in fact. My popup blocker prevents me from knowing when I have a new PM. Every time I log on, I have to look under my av to see if I have new messages.

[macklin01]

Very good points. (And not to worry: a pop-up is not even in the realm of discussion.) -- Paul

[rseven]

S%#%! Did I curse? Seriously, it is good to have a friendly atmosphere in here as it encourages people to ask questions, even dumb ones like mine. I have posted at other forums and been verbally assaulted by people for no good reason. I'm happy to say people are a heck of a lot nicer in here. (Oops, I just had to edit that heck!)

[cornbread]

I have posted at other forums and been verbally assaulted by people for no good reason.

Probably because of the Avatar :D.
Just kidding, every time I see that thing it makes me laught, just the expression.

[rseven]

That's good, Cornbread,because making people laugh is my job and it's nice to know I'm good at it.:)

[Satyrist]

Up

[drunkn.bear]

i havent really seen much swearing or anything either. so i guess this thread is effective, heh

[repilce]

Man, :eek: i must bee wierd. i study the stickes.. put them under microscopse.. i'd disect them if i had a scalpel. I love the stickies.. i pet the stickies... mwuahahaha..

No, seriously though. I regard most stickies with high attention and often check for updates on applicable topics, as they were made stickies for a reason generally... most of the time because of good info. :D

[macklin01]

i havent really seen much swearing or anything either. so i guess this thread is effective, heh
:) Well, this thread was written in a time of greater need. Things have improved markedly since them. -- Paul

[@md0Cer]

:) Well, this thread was written in a time of greater need. Things have improved markedly since them. -- Paul


Agreed. The last time I really have been around this section was around the time when this thread was created. I was just thinking the other day that it is improved drastically in here. It really is a nice feeling to come in here and not see out of line posts, especially ones towards those who are new and really do not and cannot know any better. This is what OCforums is about and let's keep it this way! I have been part of countless forums that were probably ten times worse than the situation in here when this thread needed to be created. Experiences like those make OCforums an even more special place. :) :thup: Ok..I'm done back to overclocking.

[Oper8or]

Not here often, bump. Stickies are my friend. More info then in a box of toasted wheaties. Cause I would have been an idiot and KIllled my a8n without stickies.

[tcom5]

Now folks , dont forget how easy it is to set up another account and flame every AMD using Linux luvin fanboy online. This is a problem even at the Microsoft Partner site, if your there to research a dx runtime issue or prep for certifications you will run into flame wars, rude behavior, and links to porn sites, however the moderators there are just as fast to pull a post or remove a thread and all of this from Microsoft Certified Professionals. I use the OC forums membership in my resume, as well as links to the futuremark database. Thats why I like to keep things clean. However I understand what its like to "{chastised}" online by a Microsoft Certified Professional who moderates and refuses to believe an issue could be hardware related and not software related.......

[synthetic_fenix]

Yes sir!

bump bumP buMP bUMP BUMP!

[veyden]

I just joined ocforums and the first thing i did was come into this one and read down.... I think im gonna like it here. :beer:

[fel]

Yeah!, yeah! bump Sticky

[Bow'sinJigaWats]

I know this is an old thread but i read stickies all the time unlike what many people think. Some of the one's on chips and stuff are really old and outdated, but this sticky can't be outdated.

[MongGrel]

Bye