WTF Abit IC7-G MAX 3!

[JDLT1]

link! (http://www.clubic.com/n/n9147.html)


http://www.clubic.com/scripts/big.php?id=46737




http://www.clubic.com/scripts/big.php?id=46738

Now I'm getting ****ed!

JDLT1

[tio]

Wow. I haven't seen a board with active cooling for the capacitors, mosfets, ect... ! :eek:

[Maglin]

OMG I want.....

I wonder if Abit would be kind enough to exchange their old r.1 IC7 for the MAX 3 for a little bit of money......

The active voltage regular cooling seems like a great idea... Might most people get over the 275 FSB problem most are haveing... I'm thinking it's a combo of components getting hot and not running stable....

[stereo555]

Originally posted by JDLT1
link! (http://www.clubic.com/n/n9147.html)




Now I'm getting ****ed!

JDLT1

Figures, doesnt it ..... :rolleyes:
(sorry JDLT1/Jorge)

Too bad I cant read French ... lol

Iam still working on a possible 2cd RMA on my IC7 , so maybe I'll wait .



stereo555

[RotatingFan]

THe thing comes in Q3 of 2003.

[tio]

... which is fairly soon.

[krag]

Man! That is just freakin' killer!!!

I may have to buy this bad boy. First thing I would do is epoxy some little heatsinks onto the mosfets so I could take full advantage of the cooling.:D

[Ec]-[oMaN]

who cares pure marketing hype

[Nomjr]

maybe, put considering I lost two IC7's to blown mosfets, I for one hope it helps:rolleyes:

[Ec]-[oMaN]

Originally posted by Nomjr
maybe, put considering I lost two IC7's to blown mosfets, I for one hope it helps:rolleyes:
doesnt sound to good

[NumLock]

I translated that french site:

"Abit exposed of exclusiveness in Russia its next mother chart Pentium 4: Ic7-g max 3. This chart like the other models IC7 and Ic7-g, is based on the chipset i875 and thus supports the frequency of buses of 800 MHz and memory DDR400 doubles channels using 4 sites report. In addition to that this chart will propose: - 1 port AGP 8x - 2 ports Serial ATA 150 RAID + 2 another ports Serial ATA - 5 ports NCV - 8 ports USB 2.0 - audio Solution 6 channels (Realtek) - Network Gigabit (INTEL) - 2 FireWire ports But the large innovation is at the level of the cooling OTES which was placed on certain condensers & MOSFET (on the flat rim of the chart) to improve the stability of the system in particular at the time of the overclocking. Here some photographs of this chart published by our fellow-member ixbt, for the moment no price, nor date of availability was announced."


My current board is an Abit BX6 rev 2 and so I'm anxious to get a new board.. The site listed specs of this new board seem less than the current one, like only one RAID system. Can anyone tell from the pictures any details? I did notice the upgraded N.B. cooling which is probably more efficient and quieter. Also the cooling shroud in the MOSFET area. Was this a problem area? I don't recall any forum(s) comments of this area being a problem.

I would appreciate any comments. Is this MAX3 worth waiting for? Thanks for any knowledge/comments you can share................

[NumLock]

For some later info on this subject:

http://forum.abit-usa.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=14711

[TWY]

1) No fan guard. You'll see stuff flying if you fail to plug in your keyboard and/or mouse in properly to the PS/2 port.

2) The fan is, blowing in. Should have made it suck the air out.

[RedSkull]

makes me glad I waited!!!!!

will they do this to the IC7 non G?

probably not, they are probably hurting since everyone seems to be going for the non-G to save money!

this will give it something more than gigabit lan to offer for us OC

cant wait to see the OC numbers
300+ FSB?

[spclwpns]

I B lookin at that board real hard too.... We'll see how she does around town first ;)

[Tedinde]

Seen it a couple days ago somewhere, More caps around the cpu, and some better mosfet cooling

[Mikes95XLT]

How soon will this board be coming out? I'm between the DFI Pro875 (which I hear also has a board revision coming out soon too) and this board, so I'm anxious to see which board fares better.... but I can't wait too much longer, my parents puter blew out about two weeks ago, so they're on me to finish my new system so they can take my old one.

[snoop_005]

that added cooling to the mosfet doesnt leave much room for after market cooling do u think??

[tio]

^ Yeah, like if you were to use the Zalman CNPS 7000 or something, I don't think it would fit.

The more I look at it, the more it seems like that plastic shroud thing would do more harm than good. I just can't see any air from that tiny fan reaching any of the mosfets in the back half of the plastic-covered area. At least with no cover you could cool that area with a fan on your side pannel or something. :(

[Clutch_Head]

instead of trying somthing new, why don't they try somthing old first?

http://honkykong.net/rich/images/mosfet_sink.jpg

(mosfet sinks on my old Fic VA-502 board.)

changed image host.

[fernis]

Anyone know if any benchmarks are released for this board? What will the cost be?

[likwidkool]

Originally posted by Clutch_Head
instead of trying somthing new, why don't they try somthing old first?

http://www.theforumisdown.com/uploadfiles/0103/mosfet_sink.jpg

(mosfet sinks on my old Fic VA-502 board.)

Yeah I have an OOOLLLDDD EPoX board that has those mosfet sinks. Good idea if you ask me.

[cursor]

http://www.digital-daily.com/motherboard/abit-ic7-max3-preview/

Was doing some searching around on info for this board and found the above link. Has better pictures AND is in English.

I rather like the idea of pushing air in--it'll be room temp rather than inside-the-case temp hitting out hot capacitors.

This is a pretty sweet looking board IMHO, and I'm planning to buy in Sept so the timing fits nicely.

[NumLock]

Here's Abit's announcement for the MAX3 along with a couple of small pictures. The board shown looks quite a bit different from the one seen earlier. I wonder if Abit had to "tweak" the MAX3 before release to meet Intel's recent change in the first release Prescott specs.

http://www.abit-usa.com/news/2003/20030714.php

There's a thread already started at Abit on this:

http://forum.abit-usa.com/showthread.php?threadid=16759

[FIZZ3]

I still think there is a lot to be said for a more minimalist approach to making mainboards too.

dinky fan + mediocre sink --> quality sink w/o fan.
plastic air duct + dinky fan --> mosfet sinks
raid on pata + raid on sata --> 1x raid is enough
etc

I'm not a fan of onboard audio (unless NForce2-esque) nor onboard LAN (unless ICH5-integrated) either.

This added fluff is not always totally unusable, but it's still not the greatest thing to pay for. A leaner board could be cheaper, run cooler and possible be more OC-friendly too...

[chung_chang]

Originally posted by NumLock
Here's Abit's announcement for the MAX3 along with a couple of small pictures. The board shown looks quite a bit different from the one seen earlier. I wonder if Abit had to "tweak" the MAX3 before release to meet Intel's recent change in the first release Prescott specs.

http://www.abit-usa.com/news/2003/20030714.php

There's a thread already started at Abit on this:

http://forum.abit-usa.com/showthread.php?threadid=16759

I don't think those 2 small pics on Abit's site are for the IC7-G MAX3. I don't see the active cooling for the mosfets plus it only has 3 DIMM slots which is unlikely for a new Abit I875 board. Those maybe pictures of an old MAX series board. Looks awfully like this board (http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage.asp?image=13-127-141-09.JPG/13-127-141-08.JPG/13-127-141-07.JPG/13-127-141-06.JPG/13-127-141-10.JPG) doesn't it? It's an Abit IT7 MAX2.

[Evilsizer]

well i hate to say this..... but i took a course in high school on AC/DC eletronics building lilltle kits for projects... and the Caps never got hot.... so if they have to cool the caps that means they are getting bad caps. the mofsets are really the only things that need to be cooled not the caps. in case i was not clear.... Hot Caps = Bad caps..... and really the mofset's only need passive heatsinks not a fan.... if the mobo was laid out right there would be no need for a fan... just the heatsinks on the mosets...i mean they could go to some larger sinks if needed....

[NumLock]

The industry has known of INTEL's intention to change the Prescott specs for a while. (Weeks before it was announced to the world).

ABIT's solution to the increased power required may be the MAX3.

The following article offers a possible explaination for the shrouding of the MOSFETs area on the IC7-G MAX3 for additional cooling:

http://www.overclockers.com/tips00425/


Other "tweaks" would have to be done as well, but those are not as obvious from the preliminary pics posted.

I guess in a week we'll know the "real" truth.

chung_chang - I go along with you...the current pics on the Abit-usa web site are not of the new IC7-G MAX3.

[tio]

Just to clarify:

The top picture on the Abit website is of the Max 3.

The bottom picture is of the IT7 Max 2 V.2

[stereo555]

I too read the OC article " http://www.overclockers.com/tips00425/ " , and I would bet $$$ that the current IC7 series of boards are NOT going to be good enough or able to run the Prescott chips at all do to their current (power) design .

If this turns out to be the case , you're going to see ALOT of ****ed off Abit customers ( including myself) when the final word from Abit's customer/tech support tells us we will all need to "upgrade" our boards again to be able to run a Prescott chip ! :mad:


stereo555

[chung_chang]

Originally posted by tio
Just to clarify:

The top picture on the Abit website is of the Max 3.

The bottom picture is of the IT7 Max 2 V.2

I think the top pic is this board (http://www.abit-usa.com/images/products/at7-large.jpg). I'm only aware of the original IT7 and AT7 from Abit which don't have the ps2 ports. MAX3 should have these ports. Just nit-picking:) We'll all know for sure by next Monday.

[NumLock]

To "confirm" the situation:

"According to roadmaps I have just seen, a huge Taiwanese mainboard maker will start to offer mainboards with appropriate features and capabilities to support Prescott in the second half of August." and "In fact, mainboard makers have known that their current products do not support Prescott chips for weeks now,"

The above is a quote from this article:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/mainbo...0712011416.html

According to this article, http://www.overclockers.com/tips00432/ ,
AMD just posted a $140 mil loss. If Intel becomes "the only game in town" we'll be dancing even more to their "tune".


:bang head

[tio]

Originally posted by chung_chang


I think the top pic is this board (http://www.abit-usa.com/images/products/at7-large.jpg). I'm only aware of the original IT7 and AT7 from Abit which don't have the ps2 ports. MAX3 should have these ports. Just nit-picking:) We'll all know for sure by next Monday.

Ah, I think you're right. Heh, it's all about the peripherals. :)

[cursor]

Originally posted by NumLock
The industry has known of INTEL's intention to change the Prescott specs for a while. (Weeks before it was announced to the world).


Yes, they probably did know weeks before the rest of us, however that doesn't mean they could change the design of boards already in production, in shipping containers coming from China & Taiwan to get to market, or change any inventory they already have in stores & distribution centers.

It's interesting to me that those pics from the trade show were taken at the END of last month. "What did the president know and when did he know it?" This could very well be a response to the recommendation quoted in Ed's article (http://www.overclockers.com/tips00425/)--if indeed they knew what we knew weeks ahead of time. I don't imagine it would take the engineers in Taipei too long to make a prototype board and get it to a show.

Still Intel has screwed the pooch here. They put mobo mfgrs in a spot where they did everything right and end up with a semi-defective product--at the very least it won't perform as advertised.

But don't expect motherboard manufacturers to be making big announcements about future compatibility as this means that their older inventory of expensive boards will be devalued. For sure they will wait to introduce new revisions until their old boards have pretty much worked their way through the channel.

Still, it'll be interesting to see the MAX3's press release--will they even mention Prescott compatibility?

Here's an idea: Does anyone know what kind of Prescott compatibility Intel's branded boards have? It would be interesting to see if they have or have not included the same non-Prescott compliant components.

[edited for clarity]

[NumLock]

"ABIT IC7-MAX3 to Support Prescott Processor"

a quote from this article:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/mainbo...0723125300.html

Guidance about what to do if you currently have an 865/875 board can be found here:

http://www.overclockers.com/articles777/index01.asp
(specifically on page 3 of that article).

My current board, an Abit BX6 rev. 2 running a celeron 1Ghz at 1.3 needs an upgrade soooo I'm going to give the MAX3 a try fairly soon.
I just hope I don't become a "beta tester" for this new board as others have when getting "state of the art boards" as they first come out. Even though this is something like the third plus revision of Abit's solution for the Canterwood chipset it may have some growing pains.

[althes]

board should be out soon, cant wait to get one, only after the reviews.

[NumLock]

The Official Abit Anouncement on the MAX3 has been released on the global english site. (It's not yet on the abit-usa site.) Now when will they be available?


http://www.abit.com.tw/abitweb/webjsp/english/mb_faq.jsp?pPRODUCT_TYPE=MotherBoard&pMODEL_NAME=IC7-MAX3

[cursor]

No manual on there. Bummer. Thanks for the heads up though.

What's this about 40-bit hard drive encryption? What good is THAT? Can anyone let us in on the theory & practice of this feature?

[NumLock]

The MAX3 announcement has made it to the abit-usa site:

http://www.abit-usa.com/news/2003/20030725.php

According to a Abit marketing "The VDIMM is either 3.1 or 3.2v on the MAX3".

Looks like a winner!! but, I wonder how noisey and reliable that "little fan" on the new OTES cooling system is going to be..........;)


I hope that Secure IDE encrytion thing is not a mandatory feature. Might be a nightmare waiting to happen. Sure would not want to be locked out of my stuff if the system goes haywire.

[mrspec3]

Lock down your hard disk, not with a password, but with encryption. A password can be cracked by software in a few hours. ABIT's SecureIDE will keep government supercomputers busy for weeks and will keep the RIAA away from your Kazaa files.

MWAHAHAH I love it

[Ralf Hutter]

Originally posted by cursor



Here's an idea: Does anyone know what kind of Prescott compatibility Intel's branded boards have? It would be interesting to see if they have or have not included the same non-Prescott compliant components.



I figured I'd ask Intel that question because I run an Intel 875PBZ and sell systems built around Intel boards so I emailed this question to Intel last week:

"Does the 875PBZ support VRM10.0? Is it FMB1.5-compatible? Will
it support the Socket 478 Prescotts?"

And this was their answer:

"Thank you for contacting Intel(R) Technical Support.

Unfortunately, the requested information pertains to products that
have not been released yet. We are unable to disclose any information
on unreleased products, since the product may change, making
information given to you inaccurate. Once the product is released, it
will specify which boards can work with that product, and which ones
cannot.

Please do not hesitate to contact us again if you need further
assistance.

Sincerely,

Caleb M.
Intel(R) Technical Support"

Nice, huh? In other words, don't bother asking us, we're not talking., but thanks for buying our product! And I'm an IPD. If they don't give a rats ass about us you can only guess how they feel about the end-users!

[cursor]

Originally posted by Ralf Hutter


I figured I'd ask Intel that question because I run an Intel 875PBZ and sell systems built around Intel boards so I emailed this question to Intel last week:

"Does the 875PBZ support VRM10.0? Is it FMB1.5-compatible? Will
it support the Socket 478 Prescotts?"

And this was their answer:

"Thank you for contacting Intel(R) Technical Support.

Unfortunately, the requested information pertains to products that
have not been released yet. We are unable to disclose any information
on unreleased products, since the product may change, making
information given to you inaccurate. Once the product is released, it
will specify which boards can work with that product, and which ones
cannot.

Please do not hesitate to contact us again if you need further
assistance.

Sincerely,

Caleb M.
Intel(R) Technical Support"

Nice, huh? In other words, don't bother asking us, we're not talking., but thanks for buying our product! And I'm an IPD. If they don't give a rats ass about us you can only guess how they feel about the end-users!

That's actually REALLY funny! Thanks for the info.

[LycanT]

Gave up waiting... made my own version :)

http://www.pcpieces.co.nz/wcool/mosfet.jpg

Lycan

[tio]

Heh, nice job LycanT. :D

Welcome to the forums btw. :)

[NumLock]

Great Job "LycanT".

Has the additonal cooling helped with Oc'ing? Have you done the "Vdimm mod"?

I'm worrying about that "little fan" in the MAX3 OTES. It could be another "unreliable screamer" from Abit, such as the original NB one, and its essentially on the outside of the case. I'm in the market for a new MB and might get a MAX2 instead and do your MOD.

I'm also wondering if the OTES might interfere with a Zalman CNPS7000-CU installation. From other threads, it looks like the Zalman clears the new NB fan, but naturally no one has be able to try it on a MAX3 yet.....

Can you supply pics with larger additonal views of your system and the "specs" on your system? I'm trying to build a fast, quiet system. I might even op for an H2O setup.

Thanks, NumLock :cool:

[gouda96]

did they announce a release date last week?

[LycanT]

NumLock: Cheers.

more pics of my system can be found here : http://www.pcpieces.co.nz/wcool

Its a P4 2.4C @ 3600Mhz.

I've noticed an improvement in stability with the Mosfet/PWM cooling. Its not until I start using 1.65volts or over that it comes into affect.

If I put 1.625 volts through the CPU I can clock to 292FSB without the need for additional Mosfet/PWM cooling. For me to get to 300FSB I need to use 1.650volts. Unfortunately the PWM area doesnt seem to like this and the machine crashes after about 1/2hr of 3DMark2003 (which I use for stability testing). Turn the fans on and I can run at 1.650volts and 300FSB for over 15hrs without incident.

So... unless your running some high voltages and high FSB speeds on your IC7, I dont think the fans are necassary.

LycanT

[gouda96]

Nice oc man! That is kind of like an 8fsb and a 96mhz boost for just 2 little fans, which is pretty good in my book. I have 1000 fans lying around here, would that mean I could get a 4000fsb boost :D?

what hsf is that on your nb? must be pretty small if it can fit under that stock clip. Have you tried the zalman nb cooler?

When is the max3 coming out? I am sick of waiting, I have an ic7-g sitting here not being used.

[krag]

i sure hope it has a higher v-dimm selection than the current IC7 series or I might just get the Epox 4PCA3+ (http://www.digital-daily.com/motherboard/epox-4pca3+/) this bad boy has a v-dimm up to 3.2!!

[tio]

Originally posted by LycanT
I've noticed an improvement in stability with the Mosfet/PWM cooling. Its not until I start using 1.65volts or over that it comes into affect.

...Turn the fans on and I can run at 1.650volts and 300FSB for over 15hrs without incident.


Wow, that's pretty beneficial! Thanks for the info LycanT. I guess I'll have to try this out. I'm running @ 1.70v :eek:

[remissminotaur]

A little more about the Secure IDE feature here (http://www.abit.com.tw/abitweb/webjsp/english/pt_main_back.jsp?pPRODUCT_TYPE=MotherBoard&pMODEL_NAME=SecureIDE).

[gouda96]

Originally posted by krag
i sure hope it has a higher v-dimm selection than the current IC7 series or I might just get the Epox 4PCA3+ (http://www.digital-daily.com/motherboard/epox-4pca3+/) this bad boy has a v-dimm up to 3.2!!

It will either have 3.1 or 3.2. I can't wait to see what my geil gd can do with 3.1v. For $100 I can run stable at ddr482 at like 2.7v :D

[krag]

Originally posted by gouda96


It will either have 3.1 or 3.2. I can't wait to see what my geil gd can do with 3.1v. For $100 I can run stable at ddr482 at like 2.7v :D

Oh man...you just made my day bro! I was hoping the v-dimm would be higher. Actually, this is what it should have been in the first place. Wow...support for Prescott & high v-dimm voltage. Yeah!! I will be selling my IC7 in the classifieds as soon as this bad boy comes out!!!

[NumLock]

LycanT: Thanks for the info - looks like a great rig. :thup:

To All:
There's been a little progress on the IC7 MAX3. The first release of the BIOS in now on the Abit site. The BIOS compile date is: 7/15/2003. Still no manual.

Did the previous MAX version(s) have a different manual from the original?

Last week the Abit site update on the MAX3 did not mention Prescott compatability. Things are different today.........

To quote the section "4-phase power" as written:

"While other motherboard companies try to get away with using 2-phase power, MAX3 gives you more power. Although 2-phase power is fine for standard applications such as e-mailing your mother, overclockers need more power for their overclocked system busses. As well, the next generation of CPUs require more phases of power to overclock properly; thus ABIT is the only motherboard company that can guarantee our boards will be able to overclock the next generation of CPUs."

And last but not least: On their forum area entitled "Abit Official Announcements", the question was asked when the MAX3 would be available, the administrator of the Marketing thread revealed, "Somewhere around mid-end of August".

[gouda96]

I still have 2 questions about this mobo...

When is it coming out?

How would that new hsf, which is on new is7/ic7 boards, compare to a zalman nb heatsink with the stock ic7 fan?

[NumLock]

ABIT @ The Assembly
First time officially showing their MAX3 Mainboard + FX 5900 OTES Graphics

http://www.abit.com.tw/abitweb/webjsp/english/index.jsp

[gouda96]

If I click on the preformance thing on that goofy ic7 max3 thing it says "top sectet...coming july 25th". That was a month ago...they might want to change that.

so when is this mobo coming out? Will that hd encription mean that you can not be prosecuted for d/l'ing movies(sorry if this last sentece is not allowed in this forums...i will remove if it is)? I tried to switch to direct connect to be safe, but I am yet to be able to get a single thing off of that pos. Why didn't napster or kazzaa just move their hq/servers to that island in the carribean where the online gambling places are? The us has no authority there becuase it is outside their jurisdiction.

[Aem]

wow this thing looks really cool i will wait for it .I saw the price in Turkey and it says it will be 299Us+tax.

[gouda96]

If it is $299 I would never even think of buying it. That board will have to put out some rediculous oc's for me to pay over $220.

[cursor]

Originally posted by Aem
wow this thing looks really cool i will wait for it .I saw the price in Turkey and it says it will be 299Us+tax.

$299 is probably retail price. Nobody here would pay that. I imagine Turkey adds some VAT (european sales tax) to that price as well, which can be as high as 22%. Do you know if that $299 price included vat or not?

[Aem]

we have to pay %18 tax here .that is equal to 352.82$

[cursor]

Originally posted by Aem
we have to pay %18 tax here .that is equal to 352.82$

IN SANE

I'm sure those will be hot sellers... :rolleyes:

[Spade]

(qoute from evilsizer)

well i hate to say this..... but i took a course in high school on AC/DC eletronics building lilltle kits for projects... and the Caps never got hot.... so if they have to cool the caps that means they are getting bad caps. the mofsets are really the only things that need to be cooled not the caps. in case i was not clear.... Hot Caps = Bad caps..... and really the mofset's only need passive heatsinks not a fan.... if the mobo was laid out right there would be no need for a fan... just the heatsinks on the mosets...i mean they could go to some larger sinks if needed....


im fairly sure whatever you were building in high school simply wasn't over clocked too :)

i run into hot caps all the time.. could just be bad case ventilation
not bad caps.. also feel the caps on any modern vid-card , hot arent they? (at least some of them)

my 2 ¢

[NumLock]

The MAX3 finally advertised for sale!!! -
-> with an expected ship date of 21 Aug.............at least this provides an "idea" of the price and availability date. URL below:

"ABIT IC7 MAX 3 800FSB P4 RETAIL
Intel 875P chipset, 533/800 fsb, Supports 4 DIMM Dual DDR 400 memory.(Max. 4GB) Gigabit LAN, Dual SATA RAID, audio. (ETA SHIP 08/21)
Manufacture Part#:IC7-MAX3
SKU: MB-ABIT-025
Our price: $219.00
List price: $264.00
You save: $45.00

In Stock .
Usually shipps in 1-2 business days.

Rate: No Rate Yet"

http://www.gameve.com/store/gameve_viewitem.asp?idproduct=1338&showit=1

[Nomjr]

ordered! can't wait;)

[gouda96]

wow...$220...That isn't that bad at all. Especially if you consider how fast the high end mobos drop in price in the begining. I am gonna try to trade my ic7-g + cash for one if i can't sell this ic7-g.

can't wait to see how it does.

[krag]

I book marked the site and am gonna order one tomorrow after I deposite some $ in the bank. Heh!

[althes]

I need to save my pennies, goin gto get one also.:D

[krag]

Just ordered mine!!! I called them up and they said for sure that its gonna ship next Thur. and it comes with a 1 year no hassle in store guarentee. If I have probs with it...no problem....they swap it out with a new one.

[cheba63]

Ya, I am gonna try to preorder it. If not I will get it shortly after it is released. I cant wait so I can begin ocing my rig.

[cheba63]

BTW...Krag, your cpu is fricken way hotter then it should be! ;)


LOL...NICE TEMPS THO.

[krag]

Originally posted by cheba63
BTW...Krag, your cpu is fricken way hotter then it should be! ;)


LOL...NICE TEMPS THO.

He he...its good to be a vapo slave!:attn:

[cheba63]

Anybody find other sites that have it for sale? Please reply if you do, I wanna see some other prices.

[Scoot]

I want reviews first...anybody found any?

[cursor]

Originally posted by Scoot
I want reviews first...anybody found any?

I'm with you--Wait a bit and see if they made any gaffes before shelling out $200!

[jszent]

Yeah when Abit releases the new max3 I'm going to buy 1 and replace my gig mobo

[cheba63]

The price isn't a big thing to me, a I am sure they will all be around the same. It is just that I have been looking for other sites selling them and not seeing any but that one that that person posted isn't to promising. I will just keep looking, sooner or later another one will appear!

[krag]

The Max 3 is in retail stores now!!!

The boys over at ABXZone.com said Atacom.com got a shipment in today!!

scope it (http://www.abxzone.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=52825)

[althes]

Hello. WE have takeoff, houston

[cheba63]

Can't wait to get mine! :o

[krag]

Heh! That pre-order ain't lookin' so bad now.:clap: Even if it does have the 250 fsb 1:1 bug, you can still work around it with "setfsb.":cool:

[cheba63]

Any new sites that have them for sale?

[cheba63]

Hi, I will be ordering one tommorow probabaly. Please give me an update if there are any more sites or reviews. Thanks!

[cheba63]

It is gettin pretty quiet in here!

[cheba63]

Hello? Any new news on max 3?

[Atari]

Just a question.. not being an a$$ or anything..

Why is everyone so excited about this board? I'm about to buy an IC7. But I see all this * MAX 3!!!!!* stuff and I dont really get why this board commands so much attention when it costs like 80-$100 more than the IC7 does.. All the MAX 3 has is Mosfet cooling?? I mean it does not do any fixing to allow for Prescott use or anything really useful..

Just curious .

Thanks

[krag]

It has:

1) Active mosfet cooling.
2) V-dimm voltage selection up to 3.1v
3) Prescott compatible
4) Some kind of hard drive security, so no one (RIAA or hackers) can access your hard drives.
5) Bigger & better North Bridge HSF.

Thats as much as I know about it. If anyone knows of something more post it.

If these features are no big deal to you then the IC7 is the mobo for you.

[OperativeSix]

If they fixed the 1:1 issue (which so far I've heard they havn't. I'm waiting on a review first...), can really deliver 3.2v to my memory, gave it a decent NB cooler that doesn't sound like a helicopter, and is able to reach FSB's above 300mhz, they've got my money.

Of course though, what board already can do this?

[Atari]

Krag! thanks for the info! So the MAX 3 Fully supports the Prescott?? I know all the boards out right now are still iffy on whether or not Prescott will work or not. That hard drive security option sounds very kewl as well!

[cheba63]

Man... Gameve is backordered on the max3 and they wont ship anymore out till the 29th. :( I was going to order too! Still might get it from there, but I will have to wait longer.

[cheba63]

Also, if you know of another good site that is selling them for a good deal, please let me know the link. Thanks!

[Technonut]

Originally posted by krag
It has:

1) Active mosfet cooling.
2) V-dimm voltage selection up to 3.1v
3) Prescott compatible
4) Some kind of hard drive security, so no one (RIAA or hackers) can access your hard drives.
5) Bigger & better North Bridge HSF.

Thats as much as I know about it. If anyone knows of something more post it.

If these features are no big deal to you then the IC7 is the mobo for you.

6) 2 Extra SATA ports... (Total of 6 on the MAX3)

Personally, I can use them... ;)

[cheba63]

I wanna order one right now so if you could let me know where to get it I would really appreciate it. Thanks!

[gouda96]

jessus cheba calmn down. If anyone finds a site, I am sure you will be the first to know. If you can't find one than chances are there are none. I am sure more will popup realy quickly, and if I come across one I will post it here for you.

[cheba63]

Sorry...its just no1 has been talkin in this thread. I feel all alone:(

[stereo555]

Originally posted by cheba63
Sorry...its just no1 has been talkin in this thread. I feel all alone:(

Here one but kinda PRICEY
HERE (http://www.motherboards.com/catalog/product_list.php?category_id=4&index_id=7&subcategory_id=7&)


*EDIT*
NM ...GEEZ... $16 shipping too :rolleyes:

Much better off waiting 10days more at gameve.com



stereo555

[NumLock]

New Bios for the IC7-MAX3!!

The board's not released yet and it's up to rev 1.1

There's an interesting thread on the Abit Forum site:

http://forum.abit-usa.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20197


BTW: the board is also available at Atacom.com - the price is $10.00 less than at Gameve, but the shipping is more..............

[cheba63]

Does anyone know when it is gona ship from gameve? I bought it a few days ago. The date keeps getting pushed back. :(

[krag]

Originally posted by cheba63
Does anyone know when it is gona ship from gameve? I bought it a few days ago. The date keeps getting pushed back. :(

Yeah, I called them the day before the 21st (advertised ship date when I ordered) to confirm that my order would ship, they said Oh-yes, no problem. tHe 21st came & no e-mail confirmation, so I called them and they said that the manufacturer has held up the shipment and my mobo won't ship until Mon.-Tue. I dont' belive it will though. Atacom.com said thier mobos won't be in until the first week of Sept. So I figure thats when my order will ship.

[althes]

I checked atacom today and they had some.

[amok time]

I hope Prescott compatibility will not be as big of an issue at first if they keep the 13nm design. Might be kind of hot, but maybe it will work with existing 875 & 865 boards.

[gouda96]

First IC7 MAX3 look found here (http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?s=&threadid=202117)

[bucken77]

Its in stock at googlegear. I just bought mine:cool:

[Citation4444]

Newegg has it listed for the first time today.

[krag]

Originally posted by Citation4444
Newegg has it listed for the first time today.

Heh! Just bought mine too. I canceled my order with gameVE and bought it from newegg. I have had my order in with gameVE for 2 weeks now and they keep pushing the shipping date back. First it was gonna ship on the 21st...then it became the 28th....now its the first week of Sept. My order with Newegg will ship today...with free FedEx saver shipping. It will be at my house on Mon.!!!!!!

[micamica1217]

Originally posted by krag


Heh! Just bought mine too. I canceled my order with gameVE and bought it from newegg. I have had my order in with gameVE for 2 weeks now and they keep pushing the shipping date back. First it was gonna ship on the 21st...then it became the 28th....now its the first week of Sept. My order with Newegg will ship today...with free FedEx saver shipping. It will be at my house on Mon.!!!!!!

time to pump that memory some juice.

I say you'll get DDR600 out of 3.1vdimm.

good luck krag

mica

[cheba63]

Hey Krag... Do you think I should cancel my order from gameve? If so, how did you do it? Like did you call them or e-mail them or somin. Thanks!

[krag]

Originally posted by cheba63
Hey Krag... Do you think I should cancel my order from gameve? If so, how did you do it? Like did you call them or e-mail them or somin. Thanks!

Cancel it!!!!! Or you'll be waiting another week or so. I just called them up and said CANCEL IT!!!!! Heh!! My mobo has already shipped!! WWAAAAAHHHHoooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!


Mica....my cpu is maxed out on 1:1 @262fsb and I have reached 4:5 @262 so with this chip there is no way for me to get to DDR600. Unless.....I buy another chip (2.6c) mmmuuahhhahahahahaahhah!!!!:attn:

[cheba63]

Thanks fot the help...I will just wait cuz I guess I aint in any rush cuz I still need to get a 2.8c cuz I only have a 2.4B :(

[krag]

Here is some (http://www.extremeoverclocking.com/previews/motherboards/ABIT_IC7_MAX3_1.html) sweet close ups of the OTES on the Max 3. It looks like there are some fetsinks on some of the mosfets in one pic but in another there seems to be some without. Those look like aluminum fetsinks in the square holes ontop of the OTES cooler. I bought some little microcool sinks to put on the mosfets incase it doesn't have any. This board should keep me happy until Q1 2004 or till the next Prescott mobo comes out.

[micamica1217]

Originally posted by krag


Cancel it!!!!! Or you'll be waiting another week or so. I just called them up and said CANCEL IT!!!!! Heh!! My mobo has already shipped!! WWAAAAAHHHHoooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!


Mica....my cpu is maxed out on 1:1 @262fsb and I have reached 4:5 @262 so with this chip there is no way for me to get to DDR600. Unless.....I buy another chip (2.6c) mmmuuahhhahahahahaahhah!!!!:attn:

keep me in mind if your thinking of selling that 3.0c

mica

[Bob_Sherrill]

I have a dumb question.. Where is the printer port???

[bucken77]

There is none. There are no legacy ports on that board

[cheba63]

What the... Why doesn't it have one? And how do you plug it in if their aint no port?

[cursor]

It doesn't have one as most computers these days hook up to non-legacy devices. If you want a parallel port, you need to get a parallel port PCI card.

Word to the wise---

Don't bother with one, just get a new printer.

[stereo555]

Originally posted by cheba63
What the... Why doesn't it have one? And how do you plug it in if their aint no port?

Well , same as the original IT7 (legacy free) everything is base on connections by USB ports only . If you have an older piece of hardware that is serial , PS2 , or parallel port based then you would have to go out and purchase a seperate PCI based add-on card consisting of what ever port you would require .

stereo555

[Citation4444]

This cinches it for me, I'll not be buying a Max 3. As an original owner of a IT7E (the original legacy-free board), I can't begin to tell you how often the lack of these legacy ports has caused me problems over the last year or so. Even if I don't use them, I think it's false economy to leave them out.
I think I'll be buying the DFI LanParty 675Pro or the DFI Infinity or the Asus P4C800E, one of the three - I just don't know which yet. I only know it won't be a Max3

[cursor]

Originally posted by Citation4444
This cinches it for me, I'll not be buying a Max 3. As an original owner of a IT7E (the original legacy-free board), I can't begin to tell you how often the lack of these legacy ports has caused me problems over the last year or so. Even if I don't use them, I think it's false economy to leave them out.
I think I'll be buying the DFI LanParty 675Pro or the DFI Infinity or the Asus P4C800E, one of the three - I just don't know which yet. I only know it won't be a Max3

I dont' think it's economy--they just don't have any more SPACE on that backplate for a parallel port. And who needs one anyway? All printers made in the last 2-3 years have USB and parallel ports. If you have anything older it's time for an upgrade anyhow.

[AMD_Me]

Originally posted by cursor
It doesn't have one as most computers these days hook up to non-legacy devices. If you want a parallel port, you need to get a parallel port PCI card.

Word to the wise---

Don't bother with one, just get a new printer.


I would never use a keyboard that was not Ps2. USB goes awol more often than not when you need it most. I wouldnt buy a mobo without PS2 if it was free, which most definitely the Ic7 is not.

[cursor]

Originally posted by AMD_Me



I would never use a keyboard that was not Ps2. USB goes awol more often than not when you need it most. I wouldnt buy a mobo without PS2 if it was free, which most definitely the Ic7 is not.


???

What are you talking about? It doesn't have a parallel, but it most definately DOES have PS/2 keyboard and mouse ports--

Tale a look :eek:

http://images10.newegg.com/productimage/13-127-158-01.JPG

This image is from newegg.

[bucken77]

the max 3 has the keyboard and mouse ports it just does not have the serial and printer port

[gouda96]

...wow...these ocforums seem to be lagging behind some others...

it is not legacy free...it has ps2...if you could get ddr600 you would lose up to 2k points in 3dmark. If you ran your crappy adata at 300fsb 1:1 with 3-4-4-8 your scores in every benchmark except sandra would get raped by the same machine running 300 5:4 with some nice 2-2-2-x with bh-5 chips.

All the pc4x00 is crap...s-sandra is only good for the "wow" factor...doesn't show much about the preformance of the machine...TIMINGS ARE EVERYTHING!!!

[Subaru]

hmm what's good of a board without a parallel port?

[cursor]

Originally posted by Subaru
hmm what's good of a board without a parallel port?

What is it with this obsession with legacy ports? PS/2 maybe I can understand, but a printer port?

Explain to me the logic behind needing one. These days serial and parallel are like mamory glands on a male bovine.

[gouda96]

Originally posted by cursor


What is it with this obsession with legacy ports? PS/2 maybe I can understand, but a printer port?

Explain to me the logic behind needing one. These days serial and parallel are like mamory glands on a male bovine.

ait's thinking exatly...and I totally agree. Get a new printer for $20 with a usb cord. ps2 is horrible...if you are using ps2...well then this is good for you. Go get a decent keyboard and mouse...go logitech.

[Siphilon]

I like dem legacy ports. Parallel is nice for a LCD Mod. USB LCDs Ive looked at cost over $50 and a Parallel one can be made for so much cheaper. Serial Ports are nice are nice for accessing consoles, smart card reader/writers etc... PS/2 keyboard does fine for me...I dunno what I missing out with a USB keyboard but I don't see the need for a USB keyboard when PS/2 seems to do just fine. USB Mouse is mandatory for me..that I understand.

When it comes down to it's just convenience factor. I'm not gonna base any purchase on whether it has legacy support or not but I'd definitly take it into consideration.

_Siph

[Hellion]

http://www.digital-daily.com/motherboard/abit-ic7-max3-preview/

Was doing some searching around on info for this board and found the above link. Has better pictures AND is in English.

I rather like the idea of pushing air in--it'll be room temp rather than inside-the-case temp hitting out hot capacitors.

This is a pretty sweet looking board IMHO, and I'm planning to buy in Sept so the timing fits nicely.

Good point but....then youd be blowing HOT air from the mosfets and capacitors all through the case. (CPU, NB, SB, Vcard. Ect.) so it would be better to blow out because your adding more cooling to something that wasnt there to begin with, there for its more like it doesnt matter if case temp is blowing on it, AT LEAST SOMETHING IS! right?.

The mosfets and capacitors are some of the hottest things on the mobo so, if it can survive those temps, then it can be cooled with in case temps just fine.

[Hellion]

Also..sorry about the second post. but if you look carefully, It has screws! YAY! you can turn it around and EVERYONE can be happy! lol

[gouda96]

Aaaahhhh! Return Of The Dead Thread!!!!!!! :D

[krag]

Aaaahhhh! Return Of The Dead Thread!!!!!!! :D


Totally...


Hey Gouda....ain't bumped into to you for awhile! :D Do you still hang out over at extremesystems? Question about extremesystems....what ever happend over the fugger web site war???

[Sjaak]

Holy Thread Resurrection :eek:



Well, having that mobo for awhile now, its good :)

[gouda96]

Totally...


Hey Gouda....ain't bumped into to you for awhile! :D Do you still hang out over at extremesystems? Question about extremesystems....what ever happend over the fugger web site war???

Yeah, it has been a while hasn't it? I drop in over at xtreme everyday. I hang out here too, just the layout is a little too divided so you don't get to every thread.

You know, I am not realy sure...I never left xtreme, and almost all of the most knowledgeable people that I can think of are still there. I never realy went to fugger's I am gonna have to check it out and see who is there.

[Hellion]

Yeah, it has been a while hasn't it? I drop in over at xtreme everyday. I hang out here too, just the layout is a little too divided so you don't get to every thread.

You know, I am not realy sure...I never left xtreme, and almost all of the most knowledgeable people that I can think of are still there. I never realy went to fugger's I am gonna have to check it out and see who is there.

YAY... you found each other :D lol, okok, does anyone remember what the thread is about? :beer: lol.

um....Any ideas about just switching the fan around? Do you think it would work?

[gouda96]

YAY... does anyone remember what the thread is about? :beer: lol.


No, because this thread died like 6 damn months ago! Actually, I did know, but I forgot!

[Hellion]

[QUOTE=Hellion]YAY... does anyone remember what the thread is about? :beer: lol.
[QUOTE]

No, because this thread died like 6 damn months ago! Actually, I did know, but I forgot!

HEH.:D